Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
cierta factura vanguardista
English translation:
(vanguardist) heritage / echo
Added to glossary by
Jenni Lukac (X)
Sep 26, 2012 19:42
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
cierta factura vanguardista
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Hi everyone,
It's me again, working on the same text about Spanish art:
Durante todo ese tiempo de la década de 1940, la evasión de las pretensiones retóricas en favor de una plasmación de la realidad más humilde, sin renunciar a la memoria de cierta factura vanguardista, cortada por el patrón de lo que se llamó Escuela de París, fue no sólo la opción más digna, sino la única opción posible.
Can anyone please explain the meaning of "factura" as it appears in the above context?
Many thanks
Jack
It's me again, working on the same text about Spanish art:
Durante todo ese tiempo de la década de 1940, la evasión de las pretensiones retóricas en favor de una plasmación de la realidad más humilde, sin renunciar a la memoria de cierta factura vanguardista, cortada por el patrón de lo que se llamó Escuela de París, fue no sólo la opción más digna, sino la única opción posible.
Can anyone please explain the meaning of "factura" as it appears in the above context?
Many thanks
Jack
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heritage / echo
I believe that the writer is speaking a bit figuratively here of a lingering influence. This example states that the work of a certain School of Paris artist echoed the School of Pont-Aven: www.ecoledeparis.org... -Henri Hayden biography (1883-1970), painter from the School of Paris born in ... and synthetic landscapes that he paints are an echo to the school of Pont-Aven.
"adaptation" would be another alternative: books.google.es/books?isbn=0226726738
Harold Rosenberg - 1983 - Art
Davis's vanguardism was in sum a conservative adaptation of School of Paris painting to an ordered picturing of the American scene. The watchword for ... (I think the idea expressed by Harold Rosenberg about an American artists is more or less what this writer wants to say.)
"adaptation" would be another alternative: books.google.es/books?isbn=0226726738
Harold Rosenberg - 1983 - Art
Davis's vanguardism was in sum a conservative adaptation of School of Paris painting to an ordered picturing of the American scene. The watchword for ... (I think the idea expressed by Harold Rosenberg about an American artists is more or less what this writer wants to say.)
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philgoddard
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Thanks very much, Phil. Have a nice evening.
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Denise Phelps
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Thanks, Denise. I think it's an option. The sentence is rather dense, so Jack will have to juggle a lot of things to maintain the syntax.
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Gloria Franks
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Thanks very much, Enigma12.
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Altogringo
: I'm with Denise and lingering influence, as the basis for phrasing the sentence, as you mentioned. Or maybe incorporate Engima 12 and make it a certain lingering debt.
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Thanks, Altogringo. Either combination would be a good choice.
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Gloria Franks
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avant guarde debt
Actually maybe you could say : without abandoning/rejecting the avant guarde debt owed to ...
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a certain avant-garde manner of execution / praxis
"Factura" does have a specific meaning, which Hacia has referred to: it is the fact of doing or making something or the way it is made or done. In other words, it doesn't really mean a style or an element, but refers to execution or production:
"factura
5. f. Esc. y Pint. ejecución (‖ manera de ejecutar algo)."
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=crepuscular
But it's not easy to find a word in English that means this and also collocates well with "a certain avant-garde...". One option, and perhaps the right one, is to forget about "factura" actually means and just put something that sounds convincing in the context; but I think it would be nice to try to capture what the writer is actually saying.
I think "a certain avant-garde manner of execution" is one possibility. My other idea is "praxis", which is the kind of word art critics are often fond of and which does actually have the right meaning, though it's more general and abstract than "factura":
"Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted, practiced, embodied, or realised. "Praxis" may also refer to the act of engaging, applying, exercising, realizing, or practicing ideas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_(process)
This seems to me to be in the right area: the way things are actually realised in material form. That's what "factura" means, not the conception or the style.
"what is distinctive about the SI's mode of avant-garde praxis is their connection with the past through present situations"
http://books.google.es/books?id=GYVj5_URmK0C&pg=PA321&lpg=PA...
"factura
5. f. Esc. y Pint. ejecución (‖ manera de ejecutar algo)."
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=crepuscular
But it's not easy to find a word in English that means this and also collocates well with "a certain avant-garde...". One option, and perhaps the right one, is to forget about "factura" actually means and just put something that sounds convincing in the context; but I think it would be nice to try to capture what the writer is actually saying.
I think "a certain avant-garde manner of execution" is one possibility. My other idea is "praxis", which is the kind of word art critics are often fond of and which does actually have the right meaning, though it's more general and abstract than "factura":
"Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted, practiced, embodied, or realised. "Praxis" may also refer to the act of engaging, applying, exercising, realizing, or practicing ideas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_(process)
This seems to me to be in the right area: the way things are actually realised in material form. That's what "factura" means, not the conception or the style.
"what is distinctive about the SI's mode of avant-garde praxis is their connection with the past through present situations"
http://books.google.es/books?id=GYVj5_URmK0C&pg=PA321&lpg=PA...
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Gordon Byron
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without negating a certain indebtedness to the avant -garde
without negating a degree of/acertain indebtedness to the avant -garde
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Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)
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Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
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certain avant-garde hallmark
I have been thinking about hallmark as a suitable word for this context.
Avant-garde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde
The notion of the existence of the avant-garde is considered by some to be a hallmark of modernism, as distinct from postmodernism. Many artists have aligned ...
Aesthetic and Political Avant-Gardes
www.journalofaestheticsandprotest.org/3/Katsiaficas.htm
Generally speaking, what is called “avant-garde art” today is completely depoliticized, a facet of its nature considered by many to be a hallmark of “modernism.
Avant Garde - WAC Lighting
www.waclighting.com/USA/products/?categoryid=351
Expressing their pursuit of something new in living art and architecture alike, the Avant Garde was hallmark to Modernism. The AVANT GARDE series takes this ...
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Note added at 3 días41 minutos (2012-09-29 20:23:49 GMT)
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avant-garde imprint... another idea
Avant-garde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant-garde
The notion of the existence of the avant-garde is considered by some to be a hallmark of modernism, as distinct from postmodernism. Many artists have aligned ...
Aesthetic and Political Avant-Gardes
www.journalofaestheticsandprotest.org/3/Katsiaficas.htm
Generally speaking, what is called “avant-garde art” today is completely depoliticized, a facet of its nature considered by many to be a hallmark of “modernism.
Avant Garde - WAC Lighting
www.waclighting.com/USA/products/?categoryid=351
Expressing their pursuit of something new in living art and architecture alike, the Avant Garde was hallmark to Modernism. The AVANT GARDE series takes this ...
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Note added at 3 días41 minutos (2012-09-29 20:23:49 GMT)
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avant-garde imprint... another idea
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