Oct 30, 2014 10:21
9 yrs ago
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Polish term
akcja proweniencji kościelnej
Polish to English
Social Sciences
History
największe zbiory dot. protestantów są w Łodzi w archiwum. Ważna jest dokumentacja związana z administracją państwową, ale należą do niej także akta proweniencji kościelnej
Proposed translations
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| 2 +6 | church records |
geopiet
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| 3 | files/documents attributable to the church/of ecclesiastical origin |
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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| 3 | [provenance] ecclesiastical records |
George BuLah (X)
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Proposed translations
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8 mins
Polish term (edited):
akta proweniencji kościelnej
Selected
church records
Evangelical and Reformed (Lutheran) Church Parish Records in Russian Poland - https://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/church_parishes/Luth...
Peer comment(s):
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Swift Translation
: prosto i na temat :)
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dziękuję
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petrolhead
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dziękuję
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George BuLah (X)
: a dary na naprawy dachu to gdzie się rejestruje ? :) || :))
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dziękuję / w zakrystii :)
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Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
: Może być, choć wolałbym trochę wyższy rejestr.
3 hrs
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dziękuję / WYSIWYG :)
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Andrzej Mierzejewski
: Patrz wpis w dyskusji.
23 hrs
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dziękuję
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Jacek Konopka
: Prawie...:)
1 day 6 hrs
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dziękuję
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks"
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Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
United States
Native in Polish
&
English
United States
On time, on target, on budget.
Native in: English 
, Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish, Russian to Polish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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files/documents attributable to the church/of ecclesiastical origin
Proposition
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Note added at 14 hrs (2014-10-31 01:09:26 GMT)
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rovenance has the air of something coming from a given source but without the air of absolute certainty, hence attributable to. In other words, it can be traceable to church sources.
Provenance (from the French provenir, "to come from"), is the chronology of the ownership, custody or location of a historical object.
The primary purpose of tracing the provenance of an object or entity is normally to provide for its original production or discovery, by establishing, as far as practicable, its later history, especially the sequences of its formal ownership, custody, and places of storage. The practice has a particular value in helping authenticate objects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provenance
In case of total certainty, one can say of "ecclesiastical origin."
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Note added at 14 hrs (2014-10-31 01:09:26 GMT)
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rovenance has the air of something coming from a given source but without the air of absolute certainty, hence attributable to. In other words, it can be traceable to church sources.
Provenance (from the French provenir, "to come from"), is the chronology of the ownership, custody or location of a historical object.
The primary purpose of tracing the provenance of an object or entity is normally to provide for its original production or discovery, by establishing, as far as practicable, its later history, especially the sequences of its formal ownership, custody, and places of storage. The practice has a particular value in helping authenticate objects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provenance
In case of total certainty, one can say of "ecclesiastical origin."
Peer comment(s):
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Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
: Attributable niestety nie działa tutaj, bardzo źle brzmi. Za to „of e. origin” jak najbardziej.
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I will take it. Thanks.
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[provenance] ecclesiastical records
propozycja
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Note added at 1 day13 mins (2014-10-31 10:35:31 GMT)
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ecclesiastical records:
http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelpregion/asia/india/indiaoffi...
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Note added at 1 day13 mins (2014-10-31 10:35:31 GMT)
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ecclesiastical records:
http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelpregion/asia/india/indiaoffi...
Discussion
nie byłoby kłopotu - jeśli kontekst zawierałby - "o proweniencji"
Mam nadzieję, że Szanowna Pytaczka zechce wyjaśnic.
;-)
Należy zatem domniemywac, iż jest to wyrażenie szeroko stosowane w branży archiwistycznej, wcale nie "pierdyknięte, żeby wszystkich zatkało". Proszę popatrzec na linki w wyszukiwarce.
;-)
A, serio - chyba nie zaszkodzi, bo różne mamy records w parafii ;)
... sorry - miało być serio ...
proweniencja = «pochodzenie jakichś zjawisk lub osób»
http://sjp.pwn.pl/szukaj/proweniencja.html
IMO w tłumaczeniu nie ma potrzeby utrzymywania takiego wzniosłego stylu.
Provenance (from the French provenir, "to come from"), is the chronology of the ownership, custody or location of a historical object.
The primary purpose of tracing the provenance of an object or entity is normally to provide <b?contextual and circumstantial evidence for its original production or discovery, by establishing, as far as practicable, its later history, especially the sequences of its formal ownership, custody, and places of storage. The practice has a particular value in helping authenticate objects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provenance
In case of total certainty, one can say of "ecclesiastical origin."
przy okazji - byłabyś tak dobra i odniosła się łaskawie do wątpliwości zamieszczonych już dawno temu w dyskusji Twego wątku o "łódzkim początku" ?