Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Stickle
English answer:
A way over the peak (OR sharp peak)
Added to glossary by
B D Finch
Jul 22, 2015 01:04
8 yrs ago
English term
Stickle Pike
English
Social Sciences
Geography
Stickle Pike is a name of hill in Lake District of UK.
I'm not sure about the meaning of Stickle here. Does it connote Hesitation or Fear (because of the height)?
Many thanks!
I'm not sure about the meaning of Stickle here. Does it connote Hesitation or Fear (because of the height)?
Many thanks!
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| 3 -1 | A way over the peak |
B D Finch
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| 4 +1 | steep rocky peak |
Yvonne Gallagher
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| 4 | Stickle Pike |
David Hollywood
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References
| Toponymy |
Catharine Cellier-Smart
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Change log
Jul 23, 2015 08:30: B D Finch changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1962986">updownK's</a> old entry - "Stickle"" to ""A way over the peak""
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A way over the peak
Or a peak with a path over it.
According to "A Complete Guide to the Lakes,: Comprising Minute Directions for the Tourist ... "Stickle" comes from the Saxon word "stigle", meaning "a way over the hill"." https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dPYGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA254&lp...
This may well be connected to the word "stile".
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The lake below Stickle Pike is called Stickle Tarn.
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The same source cited above gives a different definition "an acute point" elsewhere in the same book:
www.ebooksread.com/.../page-27-a-complete-guide-to-the-lake...
"Harrison Stickle (p. 42). Stigle (Sax.) an acute point.
Harrison is evidently a personal name used to distinguish one of
' the Pikes' from the other. Hence our word ' stile,' and * steel.'
' Steel Pike' was the ancient name of this hill, as Mr. West has
it — and we would like to see this name restored."
Given the shape of Stickle Pike, Sharp Peak would seem likely.
According to "A Complete Guide to the Lakes,: Comprising Minute Directions for the Tourist ... "Stickle" comes from the Saxon word "stigle", meaning "a way over the hill"." https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dPYGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA254&lp...
This may well be connected to the word "stile".
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Note added at 8 hrs (2015-07-22 09:47:59 GMT)
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The lake below Stickle Pike is called Stickle Tarn.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2015-07-22 09:57:13 GMT)
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The same source cited above gives a different definition "an acute point" elsewhere in the same book:
www.ebooksread.com/.../page-27-a-complete-guide-to-the-lake...
"Harrison Stickle (p. 42). Stigle (Sax.) an acute point.
Harrison is evidently a personal name used to distinguish one of
' the Pikes' from the other. Hence our word ' stile,' and * steel.'
' Steel Pike' was the ancient name of this hill, as Mr. West has
it — and we would like to see this name restored."
Given the shape of Stickle Pike, Sharp Peak would seem likely.
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David Hollywood
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Stickle Pike
just the name and I wouldn't read anything into it other than it might be a difficult climb to reach the top ... hence the name
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"stickle" means to argue or haggle insistently, especially on trivial matters or to raise objections so here I think you have to take the figurative view and read that it's a challenge but don't know if you need to render this idea in Chinese so ...
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basically the idea of "stickle" would translate as "difficult", "challenging", "tough" so that might help you decide
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"stickle" means to argue or haggle insistently, especially on trivial matters or to raise objections so here I think you have to take the figurative view and read that it's a challenge but don't know if you need to render this idea in Chinese so ...
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basically the idea of "stickle" would translate as "difficult", "challenging", "tough" so that might help you decide
Note from asker:
| Thank you! I think you're right. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
B D Finch
: English place names generally do have meanings and they may be derived from various languages: Old English, Norse etc. Realised you're thinking of "stickler": a different word altogether (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/stickle...
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Yvonne Gallagher
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right word, right place. everytime
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steep rocky peak
it's defined here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_of_Stickle
"...A "stickle" is a hill with a steep prominent rocky top, while a "pike" is a hill with a peaked summit, the name is therefore partly tautological..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_of_Stickle
"...A "stickle" is a hill with a steep prominent rocky top, while a "pike" is a hill with a peaked summit, the name is therefore partly tautological..."
Note from asker:
| Thanks. It's a clear explanation. |
Reference comments
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Catharine Cellier-Smart
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Reference:
Toponymy
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"Stack (Norse), a columnar rock. Other forms: stake, stick, stickle."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/Misc...
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"'Pike' - a pointed and rocky summit."
http://www.mountain-journeys.co.uk/lakeland-place-names.html
"Stack (Norse), a columnar rock. Other forms: stake, stick, stickle."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/Misc...
and
"'Pike' - a pointed and rocky summit."
http://www.mountain-journeys.co.uk/lakeland-place-names.html
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