Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
commercial settings
English answer:
popular music
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Yorkshireman
Jan 3, 2015 09:42
9 yrs ago
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English term
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commercial settings
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Sound Plates, Sheets, and Other Effects
To be found among the percussive offerings of many manufacturers are rectangular and ovoid plates made of cymbal alloy, thin sheets of hammered metal, spinning alloy disks, and other oddities. These items are designed as special effects and can be used in drumset, classical percussion, and ***commercial settings.*** Paiste’s Sound Plate and Rotosound, Zildjian’s Earth Plate, and many products by Hammerax and Factory Metal Percussion are examples that are included in this family of instruments.
Речь идет о различных специфических перкуссионных муз. инструментах.
To be found among the percussive offerings of many manufacturers are rectangular and ovoid plates made of cymbal alloy, thin sheets of hammered metal, spinning alloy disks, and other oddities. These items are designed as special effects and can be used in drumset, classical percussion, and ***commercial settings.*** Paiste’s Sound Plate and Rotosound, Zildjian’s Earth Plate, and many products by Hammerax and Factory Metal Percussion are examples that are included in this family of instruments.
Речь идет о различных специфических перкуссионных муз. инструментах.
Change log
Jan 3, 2015 11:52: Andrew Vdovin changed "Language pair" from "English to Russian" to "English" , "Field (specific)" from "Other" to "Music"
Jan 14, 2015 11:36: Yorkshireman Created KOG entry
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popular music
Often called the commercial sector of the music business.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-01-03 12:21:47 GMT)
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i.e. it earns more money than classical music.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-01-03 12:33:06 GMT)
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drum sets would very probably refer to percussionists' equipment (classical soloists like Evelyn Glennie)) and drummers (jazz/rock/pop - whereby jazz also embraces both percussionists like Lionel Hampton and Gary Burton (both vibraphone/xylophone and true drummers like Charly Antolini and Gene Krupa) and classical percussion to the use of percussion instruments in orchestras
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i.e. it earns more money than classical music.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-01-03 12:33:06 GMT)
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drum sets would very probably refer to percussionists' equipment (classical soloists like Evelyn Glennie)) and drummers (jazz/rock/pop - whereby jazz also embraces both percussionists like Lionel Hampton and Gary Burton (both vibraphone/xylophone and true drummers like Charly Antolini and Gene Krupa) and classical percussion to the use of percussion instruments in orchestras
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Tony M
: Does sort of make sense, doesn't it? Though the opposition with 'drumset' seems to me curious — 'drumset' seems like the odd one out!
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THX. A little odd, I must admit. Maybe they are distinguishing between drum percussionists and marimba, xylophone, vibraphone players and the famous tubular bells
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Gert Sass (M.A.)
: Just like you, I first considered this an option, but obviously the author might have chosen an easier way to refer to pop music if he meant to do so.
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Comment: "Thanks everybody for your help! I think I'll stick to this version."
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Gert Sass (M.A.)
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English term (edited):
in a commercial setting
in a sound studio environment
... where commercial use of such items as "special effects" can be considered quite usual.
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English term (edited):
commercial setting
commercial recording settings
This refers to 'commercial' in the sense of TV/radio commercials. If you take a look at what sound plates do, it is to variously provide special effects and it is there, of course, that these are in demand.
I checked with a family member who is a percussionist, record producer and has a share in a recording studio. His response "They are talking about advertising..."
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Note added at 1 day57 mins (2015-01-04 10:39:31 GMT)
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Sorry. 'settings' should be singular ('Settings' is simply a word that we are so used to seeing in plural form). ;-)
I checked with a family member who is a percussionist, record producer and has a share in a recording studio. His response "They are talking about advertising..."
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Note added at 1 day57 mins (2015-01-04 10:39:31 GMT)
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Sorry. 'settings' should be singular ('Settings' is simply a word that we are so used to seeing in plural form). ;-)
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Yvonne Gallagher
: not sure but makes far more sense. I feel sure this is simply what it says "commercial" but surely not just about advertising but all types of commmercial settings=environment?
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Gert Sass (M.A.)
: Would you seriously deny leaning on my earlier proposal to some degree?
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Sorry Gert. I didn't know about your experience in crashing Zildjians and sliding faders. You should have said (even though that could be in violation of whatever) ;-)
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Yorkshireman
: Would be the production of commercials, not settings. Budgets are usually so tight in advertising that producers go for canned audio rather than musicians. A sound plate (Paiste) is simply an alternative to a bell, but with longer sustain.
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Gert Sass (M.A.)
Germany
Germany
Specializes in field
Germany
Precision for those who appreciate it.
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 5 more.
English term (edited):
in a commercial setting
in an environment where "special effects" (here: audio effects)...
... are of essential (commercial) importance
such as a recording studio,
where tone generators of any kind are typically used
where commercial use is made of "special effects" items as a standard, and/or where special sounds are produced for specific purposes, as e.g. in a Foley studio (s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking))
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In your position, I would of course ask the client for clarification, but when left without further information, sth along these lines would be my most likely choice
such as a recording studio,
where tone generators of any kind are typically used
where commercial use is made of "special effects" items as a standard, and/or where special sounds are produced for specific purposes, as e.g. in a Foley studio (s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking))
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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2015-01-05 03:59:13 GMT)
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In your position, I would of course ask the client for clarification, but when left without further information, sth along these lines would be my most likely choice
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Textklick
: Circumscribes it neatly. Client reference vital, as often with vague source).
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Discussion
However, I can't quite see what they mean here by 'commercial'; in the arts, 'commercial' is often used with a slightly derogatory notion of 'for the mass market, not true art' (in practice, this usually means people will enjoy it!); however, I cannot see how that would fit here, since it is not really opposing anything else.
'commercial' sometimes refers to 'activities aimed at (usually TV) commercials' — but again, that doesn't seem to make any sense here.
It might, I suppose, refer to simply use in a shop selling musical instruments; but again, that seems a fairly unlikely reason for the existence of this group of devices.
The full text is here: http://www.moderndrummer.com/site/2015/01/need-know-effects-...