Glossary entry (derived from question below)
русский term or phrase:
комнатный стольник
английский translation:
Room Stolnik
Added to glossary by
Maruti Shinde
Mar 19, 2009 09:56
15 yrs ago
русский term
комнатный стольник
русский => английский
Искусство/Литература
Искусства, ремесла, живопись
Там же висел большой портрет боярина Б.И. Прозоровского, комнатного стольника царевича Федора Алексеевича, дяди Анастасии Петровны, ― работа немецкого живописца Георга Эрнста Грубее
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | Room Stolnik |
Maruti Shinde
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| 5 | The Personal Secretary |
Alexandra Taggart
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| 4 | Table attendant to the throne room |
Ricki Gidoomal
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Mar 20, 2009 05:29: Maruti Shinde Created KOG entry
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Maruti Shinde
Индия
Индия
Native in английский
Индия
Russian-English Technical Financial
Native in: маратхи 
, английский
Works in: русский => английский, русский => хинди, хинди => русский, and 3 more.
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Room Stolnik
Room Stolnik
In 1676, he was appointed room stolnik (комнатный стольник) of Tsar Feodor III of Russia. In 1682, Ivan Khovansky was granted the title of a boyar (which he ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ivanovich_Khovansky
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Stolnik
The highest general sub-Duma rank of military and court servitors in Muscovy.
Literally meaning "table-attendant," stolnik first appears in 1228 and 1230 for episcopal and princely court officials. As Moscow grew, younger and junior memoirs of the top families and provincial serving elites needed a place at court. Accordingly stolnik lost its earlier meaning and was granted to many members of these strata. Above it was the much smaller number of postelniks (chamberlains), and below a large contingent of striapchis (attendants, servants - a term that appears by 1534), and Moscow dvorianins. The service land reforms of the 1550s and 1590s assigned Moscow province estates to these ranks.
http://www.answers.com/topic/stolnik
In 1676, he was appointed room stolnik (комнатный стольник) of Tsar Feodor III of Russia. In 1682, Ivan Khovansky was granted the title of a boyar (which he ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ivanovich_Khovansky
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Stolnik
The highest general sub-Duma rank of military and court servitors in Muscovy.
Literally meaning "table-attendant," stolnik first appears in 1228 and 1230 for episcopal and princely court officials. As Moscow grew, younger and junior memoirs of the top families and provincial serving elites needed a place at court. Accordingly stolnik lost its earlier meaning and was granted to many members of these strata. Above it was the much smaller number of postelniks (chamberlains), and below a large contingent of striapchis (attendants, servants - a term that appears by 1534), and Moscow dvorianins. The service land reforms of the 1550s and 1590s assigned Moscow province estates to these ranks.
http://www.answers.com/topic/stolnik
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Ricki Gidoomal
Великобритания
Великобритания
Native in английский
Великобритания
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Native in: английский 
Works in: русский => английский, испанский => английский, иврит => английский
Table attendant to the throne room
See the AIP official list:
http://www.ai-press.com/Solclranks.html
I personally think it is better to use 'stolnik', as table attendant is clunky, but 'throne room' is more descriptive than simply writing 'room'
http://www.ai-press.com/Solclranks.html
I personally think it is better to use 'stolnik', as table attendant is clunky, but 'throne room' is more descriptive than simply writing 'room'
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Alexandra Taggart
Россия
Россия
Native in русский
&
английский
Works in field
Россия
proficient translation
Native in: английский , русский
Works in: русский => английский, английский => русский, английский
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The Personal Secretary
In those times the ranks in Tzar bureaucracy were distributed differently.The highest rank were "Boyars"- serving the Tzar Himself, Tzar family and families of Earls, then were "Okolnichy" (estate manager of Earls and Boyars), then were "stolniks" ( State office managers responsibe for the letters of State) "Diaks" (дьяки) were responsible for secretarial jobs in those offices. Lower down were - Heads of the Military.
English equivalent for the job of "stolnik" a personal secretary. At least it is so in Britain.It is Her Majesty Secretary is responsible for Her letters, Her itenirary, etc
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http://old-rus.narod.ru/zvan.html
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http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/158930/0043180.pdf
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Secretary_to_the_Lord...
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Her Majesty Personal Secretary duties:http://pinkslipblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/in-her-majesty-serv...
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Private Secretary.
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Here is a good article which give you understanding that "комнатный" - is "Royal Private":http://books.google.com/books?id=6OaOaYo6J7oC&pg=PA736&lpg=P...
English equivalent for the job of "stolnik" a personal secretary. At least it is so in Britain.It is Her Majesty Secretary is responsible for Her letters, Her itenirary, etc
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-03-19 17:03:27 GMT)
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http://old-rus.narod.ru/zvan.html
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-03-19 17:05:53 GMT)
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http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/158930/0043180.pdf
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-03-19 17:12:40 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Secretary_to_the_Lord...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-03-19 18:13:07 GMT)
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Her Majesty Personal Secretary duties:http://pinkslipblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/in-her-majesty-serv...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2009-03-19 21:10:02 GMT)
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Private Secretary.
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Note added at 11 hrs (2009-03-19 21:28:15 GMT)
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Here is a good article which give you understanding that "комнатный" - is "Royal Private":http://books.google.com/books?id=6OaOaYo6J7oC&pg=PA736&lpg=P...
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