Sep 16, 2007 00:41
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Russian term

Расчет денежного потока на собственный капитал производится по следующей формуле

Russian to English Bus/Financial Investment / Securities
Help!
I know cash flow, i know capital equity, i don't know how to combine the two. Речь идет об оценке финансовой деятельности предприятия.

Discussion

katerina turevich (asker) Sep 16, 2007:
Clue! Спасибо за заметку о стиле. Сама я не заметила:-) Что такое П, я не знаю. По заданному порядку похоже на capital equity (by the way, is it capital or home equity, or owner's equity?) Relying on the adequate ability of those who wrote this text, i leave it as is. Here it is from the source:
CF
fin
CF
inv
CF
Poper
CF
PE = P + P + P , где:
CF
PE – денежный поток на собственный капитал;
CF
Poper – денежный поток от производственной деятельности;
CF
Pinv – денежный поток от инвестиционной деятельности;
CF
Pfin – денежный поток от финансовой деятельности.
Clue Sep 16, 2007:
У Вас обозначения были на английском? Что значит "P"?
CF from operating activities
CF from investing activities
CF from financing activities
А то у Вас единообразия нет.
katerina turevich (asker) Sep 16, 2007:
Hey guys, thanks for replies, sometime in the morning i got 'the cash flow to the equity'. I originally had it literally as in 'on' . If i look at the current discussion, i get goosebumps on the back of my head. The whole thing was illustrated with the following formula
fin
CF
inv
CF
oper
CF
PE = P + P + P , where :
CF
PE – cash flow onto capital equity:
;
CF
Poper – industrial operations cash flow;
CF
Pinv – cash flow from investments;
CF
Pfin – cash flow from financial operations
I am sorry i didn't include it from the start. Can somebody clarify it?

Andrey Lipattsev Sep 16, 2007:
Dear Mr. Misha, I can tell from your comment that you must be a divination expert. You can see things in the original phrase that are not there. In that case I defer to your expertise and let the question's author decide.
Clue Sep 16, 2007:
Чтобы избежать споров, Катерине следует привести формулу, которая издет за этой фразой
The Misha Sep 16, 2007:
Mr.Lipattsev,I can tell from your answer that you are not a finance expert. From what I see of the original phrase,it is fairly straightforward and unambiguous.You just need to know what the accepted terminology is - or abstain from making suggestions.
Andrey Lipattsev Sep 16, 2007:
In strict accounting terms we should probably have a look at the text as a whole before we pass judgment on what the situation has or doesn't have to do with. I believe there's a Russian dictum that applies here: "За что купил, за то и продаю".
The Misha Sep 16, 2007:
In strict accounting terms, your situation here has nothing to do with cash flows, free or otherwise. ROI may be positive with negative cash flows (here's where the quality of earnings concerns come in).

Proposed translations

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cash flow to equity

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Note added at 2 мин (2007-09-16 00:44:16 GMT)
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The cash flow to equity ration is calculated using the following formula...

Что-то в этом духе.
Пример: http://financial-education.com/2007/04/03/free-cash-flow-to-...

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Note added at 3 мин (2007-09-16 00:45:17 GMT)
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ahem :|
for *ration* read *ratio*
моя любимая очепятка, кстати :)
Peer comment(s):

agree Andrew Sabak : I found this one (AICPA): http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/mar2000/evans.htm
12 mins
спасибо!
agree Yelena Pestereva : я бы написала from, а не to
1 hr
Спасибо
agree Dilshod Madolimov
14 hrs
спасибо!
agree Svetlana Chekunova : cash flow to equity
20 hrs
спасибо!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Although i kept the article, i think it's most precise and compact. Thank you."
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calculating FCFE – free cash flow to the equity

FCFE – free cash flow to the equity (for shareholders) ... where NOPAT is net operating profit after taxes and C is capital (equity and interest-bearing ...
ies.fsv.cuni.cz/storage/sylab/136_ft-11-06(tutorial).ppt
Peer comment(s):

neutral The Misha : Can you please specify where they use this term? In the US, there is a standard term for it - ROI, but I wouldn't want to look like an imposing yank here.
7 mins
Все ответы по ссылке. Я искал именно tutorial
agree Andrew Sabak : I found this one (AICPA): http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/mar2000/evans.htm
9 mins
Спасибо!
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ROI is calculated as follows

ROI (Return on Investment) - as opposed to ROA (Return on Assets, which may include borrowed funds). This is a standard, universally recognized term in the US accounting/investment analysis system. I don't see a need to reinvent the bycilce here.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Andrey Lipattsev : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freecashflowtoequity.asp is one thing and http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnonequity.asp and http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp are another. hell knows where it's used, but it is :)
4 mins
Your reference describes (in a fairly weird way, I've never seen this term before - and I have an MBA in Finance)what is known in the US as a dividend payout ratio. This is a totally different metric.
disagree Clue : Совершенно из другой оперы.
4 hrs
You guys here seem to be all finance experts, so go right ahead and translate it as you please. What od I care.
neutral Svetlana Chekunova : return (meaning earnings) and cash flows are not the same thing, sorry
19 hrs
I am really tired of explaining basic financial analysis to you guys one by one. I am out of this discussion, go ahead and translate it any way you see fit.
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