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Jan 9 11:00
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Bonjour il s'agit du titre d'un acte de dépôt de testament. Je pense qu'il s'agit de Land Registry mais dans le doute je préfère vous poser la question et vous remercie d'avance.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +5 | public notice |
AllegroTrans
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| 4 | gazetting (publicising vs. publication) |
Adrian MM.
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| 3 | Notification |
AllegroTrans
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References
| publication/registration of will? |
philgoddard
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Proposed translations
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public notice
Code de procédure civile - article 1378
Dans les quinze jours suivant l'établissement du procès-verbal de l'ouverture et de l'état du testament mentionné à l'article 1007 du code civil, le notaire fait procéder à l'insertion d'un avis, qui comporte le nom du défunt, le nom et les coordonnées du notaire chargé de la succession, ainsi que l'existence d'un legs universel, au Bulletin officiel des annonces civiles et commerciales et dans un journal d'annonces légales diffusé dans le ressort du tribunal compétent.
Cette publicité peut être faite par voie électronique.
Les frais de publicité sont à la charge du légataire universel.
These notices are there to announce the death of an individual and inform people when a deceased person's estate is being distributed to beneficiaries, according to the Trustees Act of 1925. This gives creditors an opportunity to claim back any money or property they are owed before the estate is distributed.
Probate & Trustee | Public Notice Portal
Public Notices from Hampshire Chronicle
Public Notice Portal
https://publicnoticeportal.uk › hampshire-chronicle
Announcements of estate and settlements due to death. Read more about Probate ... Can I publish a Public Notice directly to Public Notice Portal?
Dans les quinze jours suivant l'établissement du procès-verbal de l'ouverture et de l'état du testament mentionné à l'article 1007 du code civil, le notaire fait procéder à l'insertion d'un avis, qui comporte le nom du défunt, le nom et les coordonnées du notaire chargé de la succession, ainsi que l'existence d'un legs universel, au Bulletin officiel des annonces civiles et commerciales et dans un journal d'annonces légales diffusé dans le ressort du tribunal compétent.
Cette publicité peut être faite par voie électronique.
Les frais de publicité sont à la charge du légataire universel.
These notices are there to announce the death of an individual and inform people when a deceased person's estate is being distributed to beneficiaries, according to the Trustees Act of 1925. This gives creditors an opportunity to claim back any money or property they are owed before the estate is distributed.
Probate & Trustee | Public Notice Portal
Public Notices from Hampshire Chronicle
Public Notice Portal
https://publicnoticeportal.uk › hampshire-chronicle
Announcements of estate and settlements due to death. Read more about Probate ... Can I publish a Public Notice directly to Public Notice Portal?
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much |
Peer comment(s):
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Adrian MM.
: I'd have agreed with gazette notice, as in a section 27 notification to beneficiaries https://www.nationalwillregister.co.uk/section-27-notice/
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A gazette notice IS a public notice and section 27 Wills Act doesn't apply in France; also if you read Article 1378 of the FRENCH CPC, you'll see that the notice must also go into a local newspaper; "gazetting" is too casual
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liz askew
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Yvonne Gallagher
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thanks!
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writeaway
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Thanks
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SafeTex
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thanks
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Andrew Bramhall
: or ' legal notice'; "gazetting" completely de trop.
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thanks
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ph-b
: The info added by Lucia (adresser au greffier) makes my initial ref to art 1378 in the discussion unsafe. See my 2nd post in the discussion./Lucia's 2nd comment to philgoddard's ref.
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OK, but that provision might be in addition to placing a public notice, we don't actually know at this stage
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Comment: "Thank you very much"
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gazetting (publicising vs. publication)
I agree with registration of Will, whilst extrapolate from the Discussion Entries a 'Gazetting Process'. I'm not sute that 'public notice' quite nails it.
Anyway, 'publication' vs. publicising of the Will is misleading as intimated and the meaning of showing the Will to witnesses is los, even on the UK Probate website.
As part of ProZ 'Netiquette', I will let and 'allow' anyone to post the registration alternative.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2024-01-09 15:42:06 GMT)
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.. the meaning of showing the Will to witnesses is *lost*, even on the UK Government Probate (= Scottish Letters of Confirmation) website.
Anyway, 'publication' vs. publicising of the Will is misleading as intimated and the meaning of showing the Will to witnesses is los, even on the UK Probate website.
As part of ProZ 'Netiquette', I will let and 'allow' anyone to post the registration alternative.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2024-01-09 15:42:06 GMT)
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.. the meaning of showing the Will to witnesses is *lost*, even on the UK Government Probate (= Scottish Letters of Confirmation) website.
Example sentence:
The Gazette (Official Public Record) and The National Will Register have entered into a contractual arrangement producing a strategic working alliance aimed at offering a comprehensive, “belt and braces” approach
Peer comment(s):
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ph-b
: The info added by Lucia makes any ref to gazetting unsafe. See discussion.
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: Too casual and "in house" to use in a formal translation
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1 day 1 hr
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Notification
I am making this second (tentative and alternative) suggestion on the basis that the full content of the paragraph under the heading requires BOTH the insertion of a public notice in the BOAC and a local newspaper AND the sending of a copy of the will to the Court
"Notification", I think, would be a suitable generic heading in this event.
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2024-01-10 12:32:12 GMT)
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"Publication", as intimated by AMM, is a misnomer as the will itself is not published in the Gazette or the press
"Notification", I think, would be a suitable generic heading in this event.
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2024-01-10 12:32:12 GMT)
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"Publication", as intimated by AMM, is a misnomer as the will itself is not published in the Gazette or the press
Note from asker:
| Thank you Allegro ! A generic translation seems suitable ! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
ph-b
: No insertion of a notice in the BOAC is required under art. 1007 of the Code civil, nor does a generic heading seem suitable: publicité is a specific term. See phg's "reg. of will"./Making things up that are not in the ST?? Is this a joke?
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And if BOTH the public notice and the sending of a copy of the will to the Court are necessary?//not making anything up, just a suggestion based on a probability: I did say this was tentative
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Andrew Bramhall
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Thanks, and it seems Asker thinks this suitable, albeit it was only a tentative suggestion
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Reference comments
1 hr
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Reference:
publication/registration of will?
I'm not clear why this is the heading and not 'acte de dépôt de testament'. Or is it a subheading?
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/business-commerc...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/business-commerc...
Note from asker:
| I honestly dont' know |
| it's the title of one of the paragraphs of the acte de dépôt de testament and here's some more context :Une copie authentique du présent procès-verbal et une copie figurée du testament y annexé seront adressées au greffier du tribunal judiciaire du lieu d'ouverture de la succession ... |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Adrian MM.
: with reg. Publication of a Will is a misnomer & means the Testator /Testatrix showing the will to witnesses https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Publication of a will Rewind to maligned Dickensian days: s. 13 UK Wills Act 1837: no pub. = showing of Will
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ph-b
: with "registration of will with registrar" (copie du procès verbal... du testament... adressées au greffier...). Feel free to suggest a translation!
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Discussion
...Dans le mois qui suivra la date du procès-verbal, le notaire adressera une expédition de celui-ci et une copie figurée du testament au greffier du tribunal judiciaire du lieu d'ouverture de la succession, qui lui accusera réception de ces documents et les conservera au rang de ses minutes...
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...
greffier = registrar
> publicité (here) = "register a will at the registrar's office" (or whatever the English formal version might be)?
Dans les quinze jours suivant l'établissement du procès-verbal de l'ouverture et de l'état du testament mentionné à l'article 1007 du code civil, le notaire fait procéder à l'insertion d'un avis, qui comporte le nom du défunt, le nom et les coordonnées du notaire chargé de la succession, ainsi que l'existence d'un legs universel, au Bulletin officiel des annonces civiles et commerciales et dans un journal d'annonces légales diffusé dans le ressort du tribunal compétent.
Cette publicité peut être faite par voie électronique.
Les frais de publicité sont à la charge du légataire universel.
En partant du principe qu'il s'agit d'un texte source français. Sinon...