Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Schätzergebnis
English translation:
resulting estimate
Added to glossary by
mill2
Aug 10, 2011 20:04
12 yrs ago
German term
Schätzergebnis
German to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
From a research proposal on youth unemployment in Germany.
Diesbezüglich sind für unser Forschungsvorhaben zwei Fragen zentral: (1) Welche Einheiten der jeweiligen Ebenen bilden den Aktions-Radius der Jugendlichen bestmöglich ab und (2) mit welchen Kontrollgrößen können wir das Ausmaß unbeobachteter Heterogenität reduzieren und somit die *Schätzergebnisse* optimieren.
The word never surfaces again in the text. Estimated results? It seems to be a standard term but I haven't been able to find a definitive English translation. Thanks.
Diesbezüglich sind für unser Forschungsvorhaben zwei Fragen zentral: (1) Welche Einheiten der jeweiligen Ebenen bilden den Aktions-Radius der Jugendlichen bestmöglich ab und (2) mit welchen Kontrollgrößen können wir das Ausmaß unbeobachteter Heterogenität reduzieren und somit die *Schätzergebnisse* optimieren.
The word never surfaces again in the text. Estimated results? It seems to be a standard term but I haven't been able to find a definitive English translation. Thanks.
Proposed translations
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Change log
Aug 13, 2011 12:45: mill2 changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/101566">mill2's</a> old entry - "Schätzergebnis"" to ""resulting estimates""
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Bernhard Sulzer
United States
United States
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Works in field
United States
High quality at a reasonable price
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, German, and 1 more.
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20
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resulting estimates
Even "findings' or "results" would suffice but "Schätz" makes the point they are estimates, especially if they include projections/predictions
The results are not exact figures but estimates/estimations.
http://www.iab.de/en/publikationen/zaf/publikationen-zeitsch...
see German and English abstracts
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Schätzungen (estimates) and Schätzergebnisse - trabnslated as "results" and "findings"
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/emergencies/additional/impact...
resulting estimates
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To distinguish these estimates from plain "Schätzungen" (rather unscientific), you could work with
"empirical estimates" for "Schätzergebnisse" to show more clearly they are the result of a scientific process (of research).
http://arno.unimaas.nl/show.cgi?fid=15400
empirical estimates
The results are not exact figures but estimates/estimations.
http://www.iab.de/en/publikationen/zaf/publikationen-zeitsch...
see German and English abstracts
for
Schätzungen (estimates) and Schätzergebnisse - trabnslated as "results" and "findings"
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/emergencies/additional/impact...
resulting estimates
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-08-10 23:04:18 GMT)
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To distinguish these estimates from plain "Schätzungen" (rather unscientific), you could work with
"empirical estimates" for "Schätzergebnisse" to show more clearly they are the result of a scientific process (of research).
http://arno.unimaas.nl/show.cgi?fid=15400
empirical estimates
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Cilian O'Tuama
: I wonder if the source text also contains the word Schätzungen - could add an interesting twist.
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Indeed. Then I'll throw in "empirical estimates" to show they're the result of research.
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Horst Huber (X)
: Optimize speaks to quality, does that mean reliability, accuracy?
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Yes, definitely. Thank you, Horst!
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Comment: "Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion! Resulting estimates seems best to me."
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optimizing expected results/effects
Schätzergebnis = estimated results is definitely a standard term, I found expected effects or outcomes
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William Howden
Native in English
Works in field
Scholarly accuracy & poetic flair
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, English
expected results / desired results
The general use of expected results or estimated outcome is pretty clear, but the context may suggest desired results
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Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
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Austria
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Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
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to optimize estimation results
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.38... - Im Cachevon C Liu - 2000 - Zitiert durch: 24 - Ähnliche Artikel
The ML estimate of the audience size is obtained using the Expectation- Maximization ... the choice of the parameters in order to optimize estimation results
The ML estimate of the audience size is obtained using the Expectation- Maximization ... the choice of the parameters in order to optimize estimation results
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Ramey Rieger (X)
: without "to"
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thank you, Ramey !
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Bernhard Sulzer
: could be interpreted as "results of estimations" Just my thoughts.
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(results of) estimates
Though it might not seem logical at first sight, I do think one could even write: "... in order to optimize estimates", i.e. without the "results" part.
The reason is that "Schätzergebnisse" is slightly misleading/ambiguous; in reality, they are not referring to concrete results here, but to the efficiency of estimates in general. IMHO, "estimated results" would be about the concrete results of this or that estimate -- which I don't think is implied here.
Rather, this more like a meta-discussion in which they are aware that the results are (mere) estimates anyway, and that the latter need to be improved, optimized -- made more efficient -- which is slightly different from the former in that it is all about the mechanisms by which these estimates are obtained. That's why I'm saying this is a "meta-discussion", they are talking about improving the criteria and means (of research, surveys, whatever), in order to 1) better map youths' activity radius and 2) to reduce unobservable heterogeneity (for instance, by using more finely-grained/better adapted/more flexible/better worded criteria).
At any rate, in sociology (and elsewhere, in any serious research), usually you don't prejudge the results -- this would immediately be discarded by the peers -- and disproved by reality in the long run :-]
(Sorry but my limited English doesn't allow for a better/shorter explanation.)
The reason is that "Schätzergebnisse" is slightly misleading/ambiguous; in reality, they are not referring to concrete results here, but to the efficiency of estimates in general. IMHO, "estimated results" would be about the concrete results of this or that estimate -- which I don't think is implied here.
Rather, this more like a meta-discussion in which they are aware that the results are (mere) estimates anyway, and that the latter need to be improved, optimized -- made more efficient -- which is slightly different from the former in that it is all about the mechanisms by which these estimates are obtained. That's why I'm saying this is a "meta-discussion", they are talking about improving the criteria and means (of research, surveys, whatever), in order to 1) better map youths' activity radius and 2) to reduce unobservable heterogeneity (for instance, by using more finely-grained/better adapted/more flexible/better worded criteria).
At any rate, in sociology (and elsewhere, in any serious research), usually you don't prejudge the results -- this would immediately be discarded by the peers -- and disproved by reality in the long run :-]
(Sorry but my limited English doesn't allow for a better/shorter explanation.)
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Bernhard Sulzer
: you can probably get away with using either "estimates" or "results". Wouldn't use "results of estimates" - cause the "estimates" are results.
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Yeah, probably. And maybe "results of estimates" kinda defeats what I was trying to explain -- separating the 2 different levels. Lastly it depends on how close the translator wants to stick to the original.
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Cilian O'Tuama
: was thinking of posting "estimations" as a one-word solution, but "estimates" does it too from where I'm sitting.
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Thanks. -- "'Estimations" should work as well, of course.
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