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Glossary entry

Slovak term or phrase:

neurologicky orientačne v norme

English translation:

cursory neurological examination within the norm

Added to glossary by Dylan Edwards
May 17, 2010 15:55
14 yrs ago
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Slovak term

neurologicky orientačne v norme

Slovak to English Medical Medical (general)
OBJEKTÍVNE VYŠETRENIE
.... poloha aktívna, neurologicky orientačne v norme.

neurologicky orientačne:
perhaps the words are usually the other way round: orientačne neurologicky.

Is there a set phrase for this in English?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 cursory neurological examination within the norm
4 +1 Neurological findings grossly intact
5 -1 normal orientation to time, place, space, and speech
3 in terms of neurology about normal

Discussion

Maria Chmelarova May 17, 2010:
orientačne v norme predbežne (for the time being)
Gerry Vickers May 17, 2010:
Slavo, Maria Sorry - I was wrong - of course it is 'neurologicky' and not 'neurologický'. Please accept my apology.
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
"orientačne v norme" in this text has nothing to do with "orientácia".

See this:
mnestické funkcie a intelekt orientačne v norme
http://lehuta.blog.sme.sk/c/228770/Moj-prvy-kolaps.html

intelekt je orientačne v norme
http://www.solen.sk/index.php?page=pdf_view&pdf_id=3998

pažerák orientačne v norme
http://www.tvojanadej.sk/?questions=list&from=50
!!!!!!!! pažerák orientačne v norme!!!!!!
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
That is not my intention. I am just saying that another native has just confirmed to me that it is perfectly OK. But if you say, it is no good, no problem at all.
Gerry Vickers May 17, 2010:
I'm not going to get into an argument about this :)
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
"around normal" is certainly perfectly OK in English.
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
Gerry, that is your opinion but you know very well what the Slovak doctors can produce on paper. Basically, a Slovak doctor is able to write - about normal.
Gerry Vickers May 17, 2010:
Honestly - this is standard terminology - as it stands yes, you are right, but Dylan might have missed off the dlžeň, or it is missing from the original :) You wouldn't have 'about normal' on a medical report!
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
Otherwise, it would not make any sense.
Slavomir BELIS May 17, 2010:
I cannot be sure but I think that "orientačne" means "approximately, about, rougly" in this.
Dylan Edwards (asker) May 17, 2010:
I'm uncertain about how orientačne should be understood here, especially if the normal order of words is 'orientačne neurologicky'.

Yes, I'm taking both words as adverbs, but in the light of what I have found by googling (e.g. "... bol orientačne neurologicky vyšetrený), I wonder if there's a special way of wording this in English.
Maria Chmelarova May 17, 2010:
adv. not adj. if you can make neurological as adv. and not as adj.
It s "neurologicky orientačne" and not "neurologický orientačne"

Proposed translations

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cursory neurological examination within the norm

or my other suggestion would be "no gross neurological deficit:"
Example sentence:

In an attempt to assess potential adverse effects from the phenytoin, I was in the room, performing a cursory neurological examination.

Reference:

http://books.google.com/books?id=J5yGeYKR1U8C&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=cursory+neurological&source=bl&ots=jL7ppzlaXR&sig=DgdjAmWoRy6u-EQxKxLwt7lE

Note from asker:
Thanks. I was wondering whether this refers to a rough (orientačné)/guideline neurological examination. "Cursory" makes sense here.
Peer comment(s):
agree Gerry Vickers : I agree with this one as well - also possible
5 mins
Thank you.
agree Martin Kura
3 hrs
Thank you.
agree Maria Chmelarova
21 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you"
13 mins

in terms of neurology about normal

or

in terms of neurology within the normal range

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Note added at 15 mins (2010-05-17 16:10:15 GMT)
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or

about normal in terms of neurology
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33 mins

normal orientation to time, place, space, and speech

Standard terminology used in neurological examination

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-17 17:31:06 GMT)
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OK - in this context then the first bit means what I put, and the second phrase is what Misha says - you might also want to look at this http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...
Reference:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Neurologic+Exam

Note from asker:
Thanks. The previous line of text says "pri vedomí, orientovaný ...". I wonder whether the phrase "neurologicky orientačne v norme" adds very much.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Martin Kura : "orientačne" has nothing to do with orientation here, but "approximately". The word order often varies in medical reports in Slovak, as the doctors are not good linguists
3 hrs
yes - I realise that now - this refers to 'pri vedomi - orientovany ...'
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1 hr

Neurological findings grossly intact

This will keep Slavo happy. It means 'about normal', but in more medical terms :)

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-05-17 18:47:36 GMT)
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e.g. http://spinespecialistenews.org/?q=node/55 - plenty of other google hits
Peer comment(s):
agree Slavomir BELIS : Gerry, you know this is not about me.
13 hrs
:) I'm only pulling your leg ...
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