Oct 5, 2010 09:29
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español term

Cazuelita templada de hojaldre rellena de hongos, setas y foie con aroma de ques

español al inglés Otros Cocina / Gastronomía
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"Cazuelita templada de hojaldre rellena de hongos, setas y foie con aroma de queso"

Muchas gracias por su ayuda, comenzaría diciendo

"Lukewarm puff pastry caserolle with..."???

Gracias, un saludo

Discussion

Angel Blanco (X) Oct 5, 2010:
Hence the importance of context and co-text. I think the best translation so far is Kate's. I forgot to include the "puff" in front of pastry, which makes a big difference. I think the perfect combination would be "Warm puff pastry pot filled with mixed mushroooms, foie and a hint of cheese". I would always leave "foie" on its own. It just sounds better in this sentence.
Kate Major Patience Oct 5, 2010:
Maybe I agree with Isamar that without asking the client, you're unlikely to be sure either way, hence my suggestion of puff pastry pot (suggests case, pot or hot pot with unspecified pastry element)... Perhaps best to consult the client if possible, allowing you to be more specific!
Isamar Oct 5, 2010:
This is certainly a medley of answers! I wouldn't have said that the "cazuelita" was lined with pastry like a vol au vent but just on top. Can the asker find out?
Kate Major Patience Oct 5, 2010:
Agree with Will. But it's worth checking with the client if poss. In English, "wild mushrooms" are considered a real treat and are quite an expensive delicacy, really, so if these are indeed wild do say so in the translation!
William Pairman Oct 5, 2010:
Hongos definitely suggests wild mushrooms to me ...even more so than "setas".

As opposed to dull old "champiñones" :o)

Proposed translations

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Warm puff pastry pot filled with mixed mushroooms, foie and aroma of cheese

or "cheese aroma" but I'm not sure that hits the mark.

"aroma" is a pretentious way of saying "a touch of" really, often referring to an infusion such as truffle infused oil, for example. But it is used like this, "aroma of" - it's not just a literal translation! I would used "mixed mushrooms" unless you can find out exactly which varieties are used. If you do find out, then do use those varieties in English. "Puff pastry pot" I think will get round the fact that this is a casserole dish but it is filled with a pastry crust not a stew.

If you can find out more information on what this looks like, then you could also have a think about using something like "puff pastry case", "vol au vent" (also a puff pastry case) and so on, but you may have to lose the "cazuelita" bit in that case in order to not end up with something clumsy like "vol au vent in a ceramic dish" or risk saying something incorrect/too specific if you cannot get any further info.

In summary, I would play it safe with something like the answer above. Hope that helps.

Note: Definitely do not use the word lukewarm in any translation on a menu - I cannot think of an occasion where it would sound OK.

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Note added at 28 mins (2010-10-05 09:57:56 GMT)
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Millefeuille, as suggested by Isamar, will also work for "puff pastry pot", although it might also suggest a stack rather than a vol au vent or pot-shaped kind of affair. It's a good term!

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Note added at 57 mins (2010-10-05 10:27:27 GMT)
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See note below on agree regarding "wild" mushrooms.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-05 11:13:25 GMT)
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Oliver points out that "Foie gras" is the full term. I assume you know that, and happen to like "foie" on its own, especially in modern-sounding dishes, though you can use either, as you wish. See also Oliver's comments on these answers.
Peer comment(s):

agree William Pairman : works well, maybe "wild mushrooms" to distinguish them from standard button mushrooms - Warm puff pastry pot with wild mushroooms, foie and aroma of cheese
18 minutos
Thanks Will. Yes, I thought of commenting that if the asker knows or can find out if these are wild, and indeed they are, then they should definitely include that in the translation - we all love wild mushrooms!
neutral Andrew Bramhall : you can't just leave 'foie' like that in English.//Right, thanks.Next time I visit my friends farm, I''ll try to remember that it's goose liver pâtés that hiss in a gaggle when you approach them, unless you're carrying food , not the geese themselves.
1 hora
Yes you can, and top chefs often do. I am well-versed in foie terminology... Oliver, these forums are not for bitching at people, 'scuse my French. Try to be more constructive. I take your point, and "foie gras" is the full term, but usage says otherwise.
neutral Angel Blanco (X) : Sorry Oliver, I am just so dumb that I can't understand that "foie", when talking about food, is "foie-gras". Purism is sometimes very sad...
1 hora
can I count that as that an agree then Angel? ;) ;)
agree Noni Gilbert Riley : With a v small caveat about the cheese - I like Angel's suggestion of hint.
2 horas
So do I - I think "hint" is very nice. Thanks for your ever-helpful input, Noni! :)
agree Rick Larg : And until just now I had always thought that the pies my mother used to make were just pies, not "pot pies"! You live and learn. By the way, 'foie' is obviously right.
10 horas
Well, if we could be sure it was simply a pie, then I'd be up for putting "pie" - I'm all for simplicity. I bet it is a pie, but oh how clients love to talk it up. Though there's also the traditional US pot pie..Thanks for the agree, support and input. :)
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17 minutos

Warm puff-pastry/millefeuille filled with a medley of mushrooms, foie gras and a scent of cheese

Casserole sounds too big here as it seems like an individual portion. You could put "little dish of...." but it makes it very long! Is the pastry just on top I wonder?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Andrew Bramhall : The puff pastry is likely to be only a top cover. But -a scent of cheese??
1 hora
Thanks Oliver! I'd have thought it was only on top too. I agree, scent or aroma of cheese in English doesn't sound very appetising and I love cheese! "Hint" is much better. I think you could leave foie gras in French though
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18 minutos

Warm pastry casserole filled with mushrooms and cheese-flavored foie.

Sin tener un contexto, creo que "warm" es probablemente más acertado que "lukewarm"; "lukewarm" no es tan llamativo como "warm" en lo que a cocina se refiere.
Hongos y setas, a no ser que sepamos cuáles son especificamente, pueden ir bajo la categoría de "mushrooms".
La palabra "aroma" en este caso creo que tiene más que ver con el sabor que con el olor, de ahí mi elección de "cheese-flavored".
Por último, la palabra "foie" será comprendida en inglés por cualquier amante de la cocina.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Andrew Bramhall : What does cheese flavoured goose taste like ?//No, foie means goose, the bird- you need to put gras in or pâté to distinguish them in English !!
1 hora
You mean "cheese flavoured goose liver", right? It would probably taste very similar to a duck's.
neutral Carol Gullidge : sorry, but "cheese-flavoured" foie" sounds most unappetising (and sacrilege!!) :(
3 horas
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1 hora

A hot puff pastry covered pie with a medley of fungi , goose liver pâté and a hint of cheese

This is how to put it all in English. 'Cazuelita templada' means literally 'hotpot' but that implies something else- a particular type of English dish containing meat and covered with potatoes. Hongos and setas are fungi, implying ceps, chanterels, and other exotic mushrooms, as well as 'setas'.All bound together with goose liver pâté and a hint of cheese. Sounds delicious!

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-05 11:07:18 GMT)
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Or a 'medley of wild mushrooms' if this includes 'open cup' or 'field mushrooms', and totally excludes the commercially produced 'closed cup' ones.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-10-05 12:00:40 GMT)
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Peer comment(s):

neutral Kate Major Patience : Given your previous purist stance, you should use the correct term for this specific pâté - foie gras is NOT the same as other types, and goose liver does not sound appetizing. While I would perhaps use funghi on an Italian menu, it doesn't work here.
22 minutos
Pâté de foie gras is goose liver pâté in English, foie gras is also acceptable, but not 'foie' alone which is the actual goose itself
agree Angel Blanco (X) : When you say "medley of fungi" I visualize foot infection. On the other hand, pâté and foie are not the same thing, and if you can't leave "foie" like that why would you leave "pâté"
26 minutos
Thanks- see above comment.
agree Isamar : Yes, though I'd say warm instead of hot. I prefer "medley of wild mushrooms" I know fungi is correct but not sure it sounds as appetising!
26 minutos
Yes, 'medley of wild mushrooms' is probably the most common way it appears on menus here, at any rate
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