Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Motete gregoriano

English translation:

Gregorian motet

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Jan 27, 2011 11:26
13 yrs ago
Spanish term

Motete gregoriano

Spanish to English Art/Literary Music
¿Alguien sabe si hay un equivalente en inglés para el término "motete"? En el contexto de mi traducción es de tipo gregoriano, pero la definición de la RAE dice simplemente que es una "breve composición musical para cantar en las iglesias, que regularmente se forma sobre algunas palabras de la Escritura". La frase exacta es esta:

"La obra es fiel a sus orígenes en los textos y escenas, no así en la parte musical que fue enriqueciéndose hasta el siglo XVIII con sucesivas aportaciones de sus Maestros de Capilla y con estilos que van desde los motetes gregorianos adornados por melismas a melodías renacentistas y barrocas."

El texto es una explicación muy detallada y técnica del Misteri d'Elx. "Gregorian chant" es lo único que me viene a la cabeza, y no creo que sea exactamente el mismo matiz.

¡Muchas gracias!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +7 Gregorian motet
3 +1 Gregorian motet
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Proposed translations

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Gregorian motet

motet is very common in English

The combination of Gregorian and motet is not common in Spanish or English, so I won't worry

Oxford Concise:
motet /m@U"tEt/
· n. a short piece of sacred choral music.
– ORIGIN ME: from OFr., dimin. of mot ‘word’.

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Note added at 10 mins (2011-01-27 11:37:18 GMT)
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Glad to help, María.
By the way, I don't think Gregorian chant is the same because it is a single, unaccompanied melody, whereas motets are sung in several voices.
Note from asker:
Aww, it was so obvious that I didn't even think it would exist xD Thanks a lot!
Yes, that's totally right. I knew a gregorian chant and a motet were not the same, but for some reason I did not even consider going for the literal translation... Thanks a lot for your speedy reply!
Peer comment(s):

agree Monica Colangelo : 100% right
1 min
Thanks trixiemck
agree Charles Davis
20 mins
Thanks Charles
agree Noni Gilbert Riley : Good comments
29 mins
Thanks Noni :)
agree Bill Harrison (X) : Yes, lots of cd's available of 'Gregorian Chants AND Motets'. See amazon.com.
1 hr
Thanks Bill
agree Laura Nagle (X)
2 hrs
Thanks Laura
agree Yvonne Gallagher
4 hrs
Thanks gallagy2
agree Claudia Reynaud : Perfect... from a musician! PS. Which instrument do you play?
6 hrs
Thanks Claudia... from another! // The violin (but I haven't played professionally for about 20 years! ). I see you are a cellist. Do you manage to translate and play?
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19 mins

Gregorian motet

I agree with the other respondent that "Gregorian motet" is the nearest English translation of the Spanish. "Motete gregoriano" is, in fact, a rather imprecise term - motets first developed in the 13th century as polyphonic elaborations (or discants) over the much older form of unison Gregorian chants. So "motete medieval" would have been a better term or "motete sobre canto gregoriano". But "Gregorian motet" catches the same imprecision in English (and sounds no better than "motete gregoriano") so it is an appropriate translation! Motet is certainly a common term among classical musicians and especially in sacred choral music.
Note from asker:
Great explanation, thank you. "Motete" does sound funny in Spanish, at least for me!
Peer comment(s):

agree Noni Gilbert Riley : Useful comments, so an agree for you too!
15 mins
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