Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
pagos y aportes parafiscales
English translation:
parafiscal contributions
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María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Jan 27, 2011 21:05
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Spanish term
Chile
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Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English
pagos y aportes parafiscales
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
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PUBLIC BID
Tipo de documento: Bases de licitación
Procedencia: Colombia
Contexto: DOCUMENTOS INTEGRANTES DEL PLIEGO DE CONDICIONES
Dice:
Formato 1: Carta de presentación de la propuesta
Formato 2: Experiencia en recaudo (LÉASE "COBRANZAS")
Formato 3: Certificado de pagos y aportes parafiscales
Para mí, nada la tercera línea no tiene sentido. En mi país diríamos "formulario", no "formato", y me parece que la redacción correcta sería "comprobantes de pago de aportes parafiscales" o bien "certificado de cumplimiento con los aportes parafiscales".
En el glosario encontré un intento de traducción de una frase similar, pero no me parece correcto.
SI ALGUIEN, COLOMBIANO O NO, PUDIERA AYUDARME A ENTENDERLO, SE LO AGRADECERÍA ENORMEMENTE.
Procedencia: Colombia
Contexto: DOCUMENTOS INTEGRANTES DEL PLIEGO DE CONDICIONES
Dice:
Formato 1: Carta de presentación de la propuesta
Formato 2: Experiencia en recaudo (LÉASE "COBRANZAS")
Formato 3: Certificado de pagos y aportes parafiscales
Para mí, nada la tercera línea no tiene sentido. En mi país diríamos "formulario", no "formato", y me parece que la redacción correcta sería "comprobantes de pago de aportes parafiscales" o bien "certificado de cumplimiento con los aportes parafiscales".
En el glosario encontré un intento de traducción de una frase similar, pero no me parece correcto.
SI ALGUIEN, COLOMBIANO O NO, PUDIERA AYUDARME A ENTENDERLO, SE LO AGRADECERÍA ENORMEMENTE.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | parafiscal payments and contributions |
Bill Harrison (X)
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| 4 | payments including fringe benefits |
Vicky Rengifo
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| 3 | Form 3: Statement of Social Security Payments (and Contibutions) |
Dr Trevor Stack
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Proposed translations
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parafiscal payments and contributions
parafiscal=levies other than taxes
http://www.encyclo.co.uk/define/parafiscal
I think this must mean that the 'parafiscal' payments and contributions (??social security) have been paid.
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-01-27 21:18:52 GMT)
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Que es eso de formularios??
In tender processes it is common for the bidder to have to provide evidence that it is up to date with its tax and social security contributions, etc. Otherwise there may be subsidiary liability on the part of the employer.
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Note added at 35 mins (2011-01-27 21:40:18 GMT)
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Sorry Maria, I was looking at the words in your question. I am almost sure formato=formulario. Formato does make a sort of sense but in the way you mean.
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Note added at 40 mins (2011-01-27 21:45:36 GMT)
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Maria, I think Certificado de pagos y aportes parafiscales=certificado de cumplimiento con los aportes parafiscales to be honest.
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Note added at 44 mins (2011-01-27 21:49:05 GMT)
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For 'formato' I would simply put 'Form of' ie not a form as such but a representation of, si me entiendes.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-01-27 22:15:22 GMT)
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I think Form No. 1 etc. is absolutely fine. It is perfectly intelligible and form in English has a wider meaning than 'formulario'.
http://www.encyclo.co.uk/define/parafiscal
I think this must mean that the 'parafiscal' payments and contributions (??social security) have been paid.
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-01-27 21:18:52 GMT)
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Que es eso de formularios??
In tender processes it is common for the bidder to have to provide evidence that it is up to date with its tax and social security contributions, etc. Otherwise there may be subsidiary liability on the part of the employer.
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Note added at 35 mins (2011-01-27 21:40:18 GMT)
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Sorry Maria, I was looking at the words in your question. I am almost sure formato=formulario. Formato does make a sort of sense but in the way you mean.
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Note added at 40 mins (2011-01-27 21:45:36 GMT)
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Maria, I think Certificado de pagos y aportes parafiscales=certificado de cumplimiento con los aportes parafiscales to be honest.
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Note added at 44 mins (2011-01-27 21:49:05 GMT)
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For 'formato' I would simply put 'Form of' ie not a form as such but a representation of, si me entiendes.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-01-27 22:15:22 GMT)
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I think Form No. 1 etc. is absolutely fine. It is perfectly intelligible and form in English has a wider meaning than 'formulario'.
Note from asker:
| Hola, Bill. El texto fuente habla de "formatos" y estoy segura de que se grata de "formularios", es decir, documentos en blanco que los proponentes deben llenar y, en algunos casos, obtener la ratificación de las autoridades competentes (como en el caso de las "non-fiscal contributions", que no se me ocurre qué otra cosa podrían, ser aparte Social Security). ¡Gracias! |
| As in "form letter"? Yep, I guess you are right. Anyway, I am translating "Form No. 1," etc. :) |
| You have been of great help, Bill. I sincerely appreciate it! |
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Dr Trevor Stack
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Form 3: Statement of Social Security Payments (and Contibutions)
"Formato" is the usual term in Mexican Spanish (which I know best) for form, so I imagine the same is true in Colombia.
I'm not sure we would use "Certificate" in English for a form that we fill out, so I would suggest "Statement" instead.
"Pagos y aportes parafiscales" is a term that seems quite specific to Colombia, meaning something like "pago de prestaciones" in Mexico. Even if the word "parafiscal" exists in technical English, I wouldn't use it to translate the Colombian "parafiscal". Instead I would use Social Security Payments and/or Contributions (there may be a difference in Colombian Spanish but I think it is redundant to put both in English) or possibly Employer Social Security Payments to be more specific.
I found at http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2010051610020... the following answer (by a Colombian) to the question "Qué son pagos y aportes parafiscales?":
"Son pagos obligatorios que deben hacer los empleadores, se deduce un porcentaje sobre el total de su nómina y van dirigidos a lo que determine el Gobierno. Si estás en Colombia, esos aportes se distribuyen de la siguiente manera:
4% para el subsidio familiar (Cajas de Compensación Familiar), 3% para el Instituto Colombiano de Bienestar Familiar (ICBF) y 2% para el Servicio Nacional de Aprendizaje (SENA); en total es un 9% del total de la nómina de la empresa."
I'm not sure we would use "Certificate" in English for a form that we fill out, so I would suggest "Statement" instead.
"Pagos y aportes parafiscales" is a term that seems quite specific to Colombia, meaning something like "pago de prestaciones" in Mexico. Even if the word "parafiscal" exists in technical English, I wouldn't use it to translate the Colombian "parafiscal". Instead I would use Social Security Payments and/or Contributions (there may be a difference in Colombian Spanish but I think it is redundant to put both in English) or possibly Employer Social Security Payments to be more specific.
I found at http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2010051610020... the following answer (by a Colombian) to the question "Qué son pagos y aportes parafiscales?":
"Son pagos obligatorios que deben hacer los empleadores, se deduce un porcentaje sobre el total de su nómina y van dirigidos a lo que determine el Gobierno. Si estás en Colombia, esos aportes se distribuyen de la siguiente manera:
4% para el subsidio familiar (Cajas de Compensación Familiar), 3% para el Instituto Colombiano de Bienestar Familiar (ICBF) y 2% para el Servicio Nacional de Aprendizaje (SENA); en total es un 9% del total de la nómina de la empresa."
23 hrs
Vicky Rengifo
Colombia
Colombia
Native in Spanish
Colombia
17 years in business
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
payments including fringe benefits
aportes parafiscales=fringe benefits paid be the employer
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