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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Nougat/Nussnougat/Nussnougatcreme

English translation:

hazelnut & chocolate cream

Added to glossary by Sonja Marks-Terrey
Feb 9, 2015 13:49
9 yrs ago
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German term

Nougat/Nussnougat/Nussnougatcreme

German to English Other Food & Drink ingredients
This appears in lists of ingredients in bakery products. It refers to a chocolatey or nut and chocolatey filling similar to Nutella. The customer is hooked on 'nougat' being an acceptable translation but nougat (EN) is the almond and honey confectionery, not this spreadable paste. So, I can't call it "spread" as in Nutella's own website's description because it is a filling, not a spread. There is a distinction also between Nougat and Nussnougat which must contain at least 10% hazelnuts. Any suggestions? Here are the actual ingredients:

NUSSNOUGATCREME [Zucker, pflanzliche Öle (Raps, Sonnenblume), Palmfett HASELNUSSMARK 12%**, fettarmes Kakaopulver, Magermilchpulver, Emulgator: SOJALECITHINE, Aroma]

I have a block on this now!
Proposed translations (English)
3 -1 hazelnut & milk chocolate cream filling
5 +2 Nut-nougat creme
4 chocolate flavoured hazelnut cream filling
3 nougat/extra nut(ty) nougat/chocolate & nuts nougat filling

Discussion

Sonja Marks-Terrey (asker) Feb 16, 2015:
Thanks to all Sorry, I rather lost the thread here for a while. I have gone with "chocolate and nut cream" with filling where appropriate. The stuff features as filling in packaged sweet buns/muffins etc. - just to clarify. Definitely not spread as it's a product name/description and also not nougat for all the reasons already mentioned by myself and others. To Lesley: I wish I'd seen your link earlier! REALLY helpful, thanks. To everyone else - the discussion has been a real help in my own thinking and in arriving at my answer.
Clare Bentley Feb 10, 2015:
Perhaps gianduja then as Edith suggested? I've found some more synonyms here:
http://www.foodsubs.com/Chocvan.html#gianduja
Ramey Rieger (X) Feb 10, 2015:
Sonja has already ruled out spread because it is a filling. The question pertaining to her term search remains to be WHAT is being filled?
Clare Bentley Feb 10, 2015:
But surely it's a question of register? Of course chocolate spread can be used as a filling. If I'm baking with my children we might well use chocolate spread. BUT if I'm going to buy a fancy patisserie, then I want it filled with something fancy, not chocolate spread!
Ramey Rieger (X) Feb 10, 2015:
I GOT that, really I did BUT if this is a list of ingredients, whereby the nougat cream is only a part of the list, then it would be a FILLING because it is already IN whatever is to be FILLED, and not in a jar or a bottle or a tube... Do you understand?
David Williams Feb 10, 2015:
As I commented below Nougat, whether nutty or not, is a white honey candy that usually contains nuts (most commonly almonds or pistachios, although occasionally walnuts or peanuts) and are nothing like "Nussnougatcreme".
David Williams Feb 10, 2015:
It is comparable to using jam to make tarts instead of spreading the same jam on bread. It is still jam, whether spread on bread or used as filling for tarts. Nutella (or any other make of chocolate spread) can also be spread on bread or used as a filling in a confectionary product.
Ramey Rieger (X) Feb 10, 2015:
Which is exactly what you are doing, isn't it? You are calling a filling a spread. These are ingredients in a confectionary product, not a recipe for baking.
David Williams Feb 10, 2015:
That's ridiculous! You can even blow your nose with toilet paper. Does that then suddenly mean it can't be called toilet paper any more?
You can certainly use Nutella (or any similar spread) in baking, just as well as you can bite into a cooking apple and eat it raw instead of cooking or baking it, if you want to.
The examples you give are of DIFFERENT MEANINGS of the word "filling".
Ramey Rieger (X) Feb 10, 2015:
True, true But the term 'filling' is specific to this purpose. Even though I can have fillings in my teeth, a meal can be filling, and we used to buy gas at the filling station, I wouldn't use a cookie or candy filling as a breadspread unless I was truly determined to do so.
David Williams Feb 10, 2015:
It doesn't matter if it isn't spread on anything The mere fact that it is called "spread" doesn't mean it necessarily has to be spread. After all, you can use "kitchen towels" to wipe us a spill on the dining room table, or teaspoons to stir coffee or to take jam out of a jam jar and put it on toast or to measure ingredients while cooking. Or you can even use a jam jar to store foreign coins left over from holidays.
The name does not prohibit or prevent something being put to alternative uses.
Ramey Rieger (X) Feb 10, 2015:
What does it FILL? Cookies? Chocolates? Nougat cream filling, of course spread wouldn't work David, as it isn't spread on anything.
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET Feb 10, 2015:
Viennese nougat could well be what the answer http://ifood.tv/sugar/nougat/about
David Williams Feb 9, 2015:
Why doesn't chocolate spread work? It doesn't actually matter what it is is used for in this instance, or that is isn't used for spreading in this case. It is VERY often called chocolate spread.
Sonja Marks-Terrey (asker) Feb 9, 2015:
THanks David. I like your creme suggestions. The Nutella and spread ones don't work though because it's for ingredients lists and wholesale marketing blurb so legal implications.
David Williams Feb 9, 2015:
Or else simply do as most people do and call it Nutella, as a generic term. Incorrect though this may be, strictly speaking, it is no worse than "doing the hoovering" with a Dyson.
David Williams Feb 9, 2015:
You could equally well say chocolate spread, which is what it is frequently called. The name doesn't absolutely prohibit it being used in other ways, just like nail varnish remover has lots of other uses, for example.
David Williams Feb 9, 2015:
Then chocolate creme
Sonja Marks-Terrey (asker) Feb 9, 2015:
I like nut-nougat creme but what about the non-nut version? Just nougat creme does not get any convincing hits. I need both.
Edith Kelly Feb 9, 2015:
gianduja cream http://www.domori.com/en/prodotto/9528/VGUHEMFP/gianduja-cre...

I'm wondering whether this would work
Sonja Marks-Terrey (asker) Feb 9, 2015:
Edith, thanks, but the English version of that entry is 'chocolate spread' so not appropriate here. I have hunted high and low across the www for this!
Sonja Marks-Terrey (asker) Feb 9, 2015:
I think it has to convey the creamy sense, otherwise it could suggest something drier and chunkier. I thought maybe chocolate and hazelnut creme. I was wondering though if any standard term exists. Have looked but with no luck.
Edith Kelly Feb 9, 2015:
aus Wikipedia Nougatcreme ist ein süßer Brotaufstrich aus fein zerkleinerten Haselnüssen oder Mandeln, Kakaoprodukten, Zucker und Pflanzenfett. In ihrer Zusammensetzung entspricht sie weitgehend dem Nougat, nur mit dem Unterschied, dass sie zugesetztes Pflanzenfett enthält und dadurch streichfähiger wird. Je nach verwendeter Ölsaat ist die Bezeichnung Nuss-Nougat-Creme oder Mandel-Nougat-Creme üblich.
Rachel Hutcheson Feb 9, 2015:
Is it possible to just put 'chocolate and hazelnut filling'? I looked up hazelnut praline and that's something different so that wouldn't work.
Clare Bentley Feb 9, 2015:
Praline maybe?

Proposed translations

-1
1 day 8 hrs
Selected

hazelnut & milk chocolate cream filling

Here are all three (in a single term based on the ingredients) - it also avoids people confusing them with almond-based products.

Does it necessarily have to be called nougat?

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2015-02-10 22:26:32 GMT)
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Sounds more like industrial lingo than marketing, too
Peer comment(s):
neutral Eleanore Strauss : who said anything about milk chocolate... there is often milk powder in dark chocolate
1 day 39 mins
Low fat cocoa and skimmed milk powder said it// And, unfortunately, dark chocolate is rarely used in such creams and fillings.
disagree David Williams : Agree with ElliCom
5 days
David and Elli, have you forgotten that answers are intended to be "most helpful"? If I were just translating, I would charge for it, that's my job :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks a million, ended up as "chocolate and nut creme" with filling where appropriate."
+2
39 mins

Nut-nougat creme

Pretty standard in the UK

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Note added at 42 mins (2015-02-09 14:31:02 GMT)
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You COULD also say "Chocolate creme", but it is less common.
Reference:

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photos-nut-nougat-creme-bread-image31891893

Peer comment(s):
agree British Diana : If you say so, David!
7 mins
agree Benjamin Schmitt
52 mins
neutral Cilian O'Tuama : are we not looking for 3 different terms?
9 hrs
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22 hrs

nougat/extra nut(ty) nougat/chocolate & nuts nougat filling

Nougat IS with nuts, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nougat?s=t
but if there must be a distinction, then it depends on how appealing the term should be. As nougat is rather obvious, then I would think the issue is the other two terms:
super nut(s/ty) nougat
chocolaty nut nougat filling
extra nut(ty/s) chocolate nougat filling
and so on....it's time for some chocolate!

Peer comment(s):
disagree David Williams : Nougat is usually with almonds, but needn't necessarily be. For example: http://siliconemoulds.blogspot.com/2011_03_01_archive.html
1 hr
I said with NUTS, not with almonds. To what, exactly,do you object?
agree Eleanore Strauss : this definitely hits the spot, although I would call the last nut nougat filling - and no, it is not usually almonds
1 day 10 hrs
HI Elli! I don't know where the almond fixation came from, the whole thing is nutty! Take care.
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4 days

chocolate flavoured hazelnut cream filling

Upon reading the ingredients I would simply call the Nussnougatcreme a "chocolate flavoured hazelnut cream filling"
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