Nov 22, 2017 02:44
6 yrs ago
Russian term

без видовых инструментов и тромбонов

Russian to English Art/Literary Music
Оркестровый состав, избранный Прокофьевым для симфонии, соответствует инструментарию венских классиков: двойной состав духовых (без видовых инструментов и тромбонов), литавры и струнная группа.

Proposed translations

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withoug supplementary woodwind instruments and trombones

Деревянных духовых инструментов в оркестре бывает по два или три основных, и еще по одному дополнительному, который называется видовым (в зависимости от этого состав оркестра называют *двойным* или *тройным*): к видовым относятся флейта-пикколо (малая флейта), разновидность гобоя - английский рожок, бас-кларнет и контрафагот.

Видовые relates only to woodwind instruments. English wiki calls piccolo, cor anglais, bass clarinet, E-flat clarinet, and contrabassoon "commonly used supplementary woodwind instruments", so perhaps that's the term you need.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodwind_instrument

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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs (2017-11-23 10:13:23 GMT)
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should be "without supplementary woodwind instruments and trombones", of course
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26 mins

without certain specific instruments and all trombones

Perhaps they mean than SOME specific instruments (e.g. 1 or 2 clarinets) from the wind family and ALL (usually 2 to 4) trombones are absent.
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37 mins

without specialty instruments and trombones

In the early symphonies, the default orchestra of the period, i.e., oboes, horn, and strings, predominates. Occasionally one find trumpets and drums, and even specialty instruments like the piffaro (a double-reed member of the oboe family) and English horn (No. 18).
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=16056

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As mentioned before the ensemble of the score is fully symphonic with the London Voices choir complementing a large symphony orchesta and few selected specialty instruments adding their unique timbres into the mix
http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/21665-score-har...
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Good classical music has costs that the public often doesn’t know about — high costs for copyrighted parts and scores (below) for recent works, and specialty instruments such as viols or oboes d’amore and portative organs for early music.
https://welltempered.wordpress.com/tag/vaughan-williams/?ei=...
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Alto and bass flutes also exist, but are specialty instruments.
http://www.musicforthelistener.org/unit1/chapter2.php
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Peer comment(s):

agree Jack Doughty
4 hrs
Thank you, Jack. On our Thanksgiving holiday tomorrow, I will say thanks for colleagues like yourself, who through example have set high standards and provided guidance for Russian proz.
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