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Mar 15, 2018 14:36
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Spanish term

Comisario

Spanish to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Museum Exhibition
Hi all,

I am translating the list of expenses for the "comisarios" of a Museum.

Basically, Museum A will lend some works to Museum B and is asking for specifications about the shipment. One of the conditions is that one "comisario" must always be with the art work during the shipment and check that the collection is well looked after. But also they will send a "curadora".

At first I used "curator" for the word "comisario", but then I encountered the word "Curadora" in another file. So I am guessing it is not exactly de same? So maybe "inspector" and "curator"?? Not sure if a comisario could be an inspector.

Many thanks!!!
Proposed translations (English)
4 Commissioner
3 +1 exhibition organizer
References
Conservator?

Discussion

Carlos Segura Mar 19, 2018:
Apologies In my previous posting (at 11:59), I was trying to say that "curador" is used more widely in America and "conservador" is used in Spain, but ended up expressing the opposite. My apologies for the mix-up.
Sofia Bengoa Mar 19, 2018:
As for today's entry, I disagree with Carlos since I think that the uses he suggests are the opposite: https://www.fundeu.es/recomendacion/comisario-y-curador-de-e...
In a translation for Spaniards, I would avoid curador, although I admit it is more and more common.
Carlos Segura Mar 19, 2018:
Some references suggest that "curator" and "exhibition organizer" are not synonyms, for instance: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=POs9DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA120&lp...
Regarding "curador " and "conservador", they seem to be synonyms, the latter used much more in the Spanish of America and the former commonly used in Spain.
Sofia Bengoa Mar 16, 2018:
As everyone here, I am also unsure. Conservador is a good option, but after my readings, a "comisario" remains in the museum. Sometimes "curador" is also called conservador. I guess you can say conservador or curador.
Pamela Olea (asker) Mar 16, 2018:
https://evemuseografia.com/2016/02/22/comisario-de-exposicio...

De acuerdo a este link, aparentemente hay muy poca diferencia entre curador y comisario pero la hay...
philgoddard Mar 15, 2018:
Pamela Do these words ever appear together in a document, implying that it's two separate people?
The dictionary gives "exhibition organiser", as Carlos suggests. But the person who organises an exhibition is the curator.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/comisario
Could they be synonyms?

Proposed translations

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Commissioner

= the person who commissions the exhibition.

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-03-15 16:14:47 GMT)
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Cambodge: The Cultivation of a Nation, 1860-1945
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=0824829239
Penny Edwards - 2007 - ‎History
The exhibition commissioner, Pierre Nicolas, was warm enough when they met; ...

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-03-15 16:16:08 GMT)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_(art)

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Note added at 1 day 4 hrs (2018-03-16 18:50:38 GMT)
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NB: I find the stipulation that the person must always be with the art work during the shipment and check that the collection is well looked after rather odd, if we're talking about the commissioner. I'd normally expect them to delegate someone for that task, especially if we're talking about about big museums.
Example sentence:

... whose career as an exhibition commissioner would later include the all-Russian exhibition...

Reference:

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/exhibition-commissioner-vs-curator.2630824/

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/art_literary/459971-commissaire_dexposition.html

Note from asker:
http://joanjonasvenice2015.com/commissioners/ I also found this, Commissioner seems to be what suits best. Many thanks
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38 mins

exhibition organizer

On the other hand, "curador(a)" is curator, the keeper of a museum or collection.
Peer comment(s):
agree franglish
4 hrs
Many thanks.
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Reference comments

41 mins
Reference:

Conservator?

Not sure about this, but looking around I can see than many museums cite "conservation and/or curatorial staff" or "conservators" and "curators"

Search this document from MOMA: https://www.moma.org/momaorg/shared/pdfs/docs/explore/Collec...

Or this one from the Network of European Museum Organisations:
http://www.ne-mo.org/fileadmin/Dateien/public/topics/Collect...
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Definition: conservator
ˈkɒnsəˌveɪtə,kənˈsəːvətə/
noun
noun: conservator; plural noun: conservators

a person responsible for the repair and preservation of things of cultural or environmental interest, such as buildings or works of art.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral philgoddard : If the curadora and comisario are definitely two different people, I think this may be the answer.
56 mins
Thanks, Phil. Just came across this, and I'm still unsure: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/art_arts_craft...
agree Sofia Bengoa
23 hrs
Thanks, Sofia ;-)
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