Feb 2, 2019 08:08
5 yrs ago
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German term
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Native in: Arabic 
, German
Works in: German to Arabic, Arabic to German, English to Arabic, and 1 more.
Schlüssigkeit
German to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Example:
Rechtsstreit:
"Auch mit seinem jüngsten Schriftsatz scheitert der Kläger daran, die Schlüssigkeit seiner Klage darzulegen."
I found several translations including, "merits", "coherence" and "conclusiveness". Which is please the appropriate translation here?
Thank you in advance.
Rechtsstreit:
"Auch mit seinem jüngsten Schriftsatz scheitert der Kläger daran, die Schlüssigkeit seiner Klage darzulegen."
I found several translations including, "merits", "coherence" and "conclusiveness". Which is please the appropriate translation here?
Thank you in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | conclusiveness |
Sarojini Seeneevassen
|
| 4 +1 | plausibility |
Michael Martin, MA
|
| 4 | admissibility |
Lancashireman
|
| 4 | sufficiency |
Kim Metzger
|
| 3 | consistent/lucid complaint |
Ramey Rieger (X)
|
| 3 | logic |
Wendy Streitparth
|
Proposed translations
+2
50 mins
Sarojini Seeneevassen
Mauritius
Mauritius
Native in English
Mauritius
Native, my main target language
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Creoles & Pidgins (French-based Other) to English
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Selected
conclusiveness
I would assume that the law suit, since it is not at its first 'Schriftsatz' is already beyond being incoherent. I would therefore opt for 'conclusiveness'.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: "Merits" and "logic" are fine too.
6 hrs
|
| agree |
Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
17 days
|
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
3 hrs
consistent/lucid complaint
...fails to formulate a consistent/lucid complaint
4 hrs
Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
45 years experience
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
114
logic
Other defects in the facts and logic of the complaint
http://www.catb.org/~esr/hackerlore/sco-vs-ibm.html#id307244
Indeed, the Supreme Court has not followed the logic of the Complaint in the least, as a set of key cases demonstrates
https://verdict.justia.com/2012/05/31/notre-dame-sues-the-fe...
The logic of the complaint is nearly identical to claims made against Google
https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=fZBVXKfQO4vHwQKryoqYDw&q=...
http://www.catb.org/~esr/hackerlore/sco-vs-ibm.html#id307244
Indeed, the Supreme Court has not followed the logic of the Complaint in the least, as a set of key cases demonstrates
https://verdict.justia.com/2012/05/31/notre-dame-sues-the-fe...
The logic of the complaint is nearly identical to claims made against Google
https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=fZBVXKfQO4vHwQKryoqYDw&q=...
+1
7 hrs
Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
:
364
plausibility
Plaintiff fails to demonstrate the plausibility of the complaint.
Compare with this:
"As to the Good Faith and Fair Dealing, the judge ruled that the plaintiffs simply did not “identify any facts – and the Court finds none – to demonstrate” the plausibility of the complaint." http://footlights.click/2016/12/12/dakin-matthews-layman-loo...
Compare with this:
"As to the Good Faith and Fair Dealing, the judge ruled that the plaintiffs simply did not “identify any facts – and the Court finds none – to demonstrate” the plausibility of the complaint." http://footlights.click/2016/12/12/dakin-matthews-layman-loo...
11 hrs
admissibility
of the claim
https://glosbe.com/en/en/admissible claim
https://www.google.com/search?q="admissibility of the claim"...
https://glosbe.com/en/en/admissible claim
https://www.google.com/search?q="admissibility of the claim"...
1 day 5 hrs
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Works in field
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
:
1244
sufficiency
According to Dietl/Lorenz, Wörterbuch für Recht
Sufficiency - the question in the law of evidence as to whether a party has produced enough evidence that supports his case. In criminal cases in England and in Scotland, a failure to produce a sufficiency can result in a case being dismissed on a plea of NO CASE TO ANSWER https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sufficiency
A challenge to the sufficiency of the evidence supporting a fact finding – whether in a jury’s answer
to a question in the court’s charge or in a fact finding made by a trial court – is one of the most commonly used appellate attacks on an adverse judgment. http://www.texasbarcle.com/Materials/Events/5627/93085_01.pd...
Sufficiency - the question in the law of evidence as to whether a party has produced enough evidence that supports his case. In criminal cases in England and in Scotland, a failure to produce a sufficiency can result in a case being dismissed on a plea of NO CASE TO ANSWER https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sufficiency
A challenge to the sufficiency of the evidence supporting a fact finding – whether in a jury’s answer
to a question in the court’s charge or in a fact finding made by a trial court – is one of the most commonly used appellate attacks on an adverse judgment. http://www.texasbarcle.com/Materials/Events/5627/93085_01.pd...
Discussion
"Die Beklagten beantragten dort durch einen ortsansässigen Rechtsanwalt die Abweisung der Klage wegen fehlender Schlüssigkeit (failure to state a claim), fehlender internationaler Zuständigkeit (lack of personal jurisdiction) und unangemessenen Gerichtsstandes (forum non conveniens)."
https://online.ruw.de/suche/riw/Zustaendigkeit-bei-Rechts-au...
"Failure to State a Claim for Which Relief Can be Granted
If the plaintiff fails to provide sufficient facts to, if taken on face value as being true, indicate that the defendant violated a law, or caused harm or loss due to negligence, he has failed to state a claim for which relief can be granted. In other words, if the complaint does not clearly say what the defendant did wrong, the court cannot grant any form of relief, and so the case does not need to be heard."
https://legaldictionary.net/motion-to-dismiss/
Cf https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/failure_to_state_a_claim
In the UK, that's 1.4 (3):
"...those which contain a coherent set of facts but those facts, even if true, do not disclose any legally recognisable claim against the defendant."
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rule...
Cf
"Rule 3.4 enables the court to strike out the whole or part of a statement of case which discloses no reasonable grounds for bringing or defending a claim..:"
http://wbus.westlaw.co.uk/parts/3pd.shtml
Coherent isn't the same and logical is equally wrong, IMO.
Best
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlüssigkeit
Please read it. One important part:
"Im Prozessrecht bezeichnet die Schlüssigkeit die Geeignetheit eines Parteivortrages, die von der Partei begehrte Rechtsfolge zu tragen. Vortrag im Prozess ist schlüssig, wenn die von der Partei behaupteten Tatsachen – als wahr unterstellt – den Tatbestand einer Norm ausfüllen, die eine der vortragenden Partei günstige Rechtsfolge anordnet.
Die Schlüssigkeit ist ein wichtiger Begriff in der juristischen Methodik und insbesondere im Zivilprozess und dort relationstechnisch elementar. Die Prüfung der Begründetheit einer Klage beginnt mit der Prüfung der Schlüssigkeit des Kläger-Vorbringens („Klägerstation“). Ist eine Klage nicht schlüssig, erübrigen sich alle weiteren Erörterungen zum Beklagtenvortrag, Beweise dürfen nicht erhoben werden. Die unschlüssige Klage weist der Richter – nach einem Hinweis, um der vortragenden Partei Gelegenheit zu geben, ihr Vorbringen nachzubessern – ab."
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