Oct 15, 2019 19:43
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English term
Spain
Native in: English 
, French
Works in: English to French, French to English, Spanish to English, and 3 more.
Sovereign’s Command
English to French
Law/Patents
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Signed by the Sovereign’s Command
Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown
Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +1 | par ordre / sur l'ordre du Souverain |
Nathalie Stewart
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| 3 | Subordonné de la souveraineté |
Samuel Clarisse
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Proposed translations
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32 mins
Nathalie Stewart
France
France
Native in English
&
French
Works in field
France
Medical and Legal translations
Native in: English , French
Works in: English to French, French to English, Russian to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
par ordre / sur l'ordre du Souverain
https://www.fm-fr.org/francais/rites/rite-ecossais-ancien-ac...
"Confirmé la présente copie et par ordre du Souverain Grand Président, Souverain des Souverains"
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Léviathan_(Thomas_Hobbes)
Thomas_Hobbes, Leviathan :
...il peut donc arriver, comme c'est souvent le cas dans un État, qu'un sujet soit mis à mort sur l'ordre du Souverain sans qu'il y ait de tort d'aucun des deux côtés...
[Original English version quoted in Footnote 24:]
...And therefore it may, and doth often happen in Common-wealths, that a Subject may be put to death, by the command of the Soveraign Power; and yet neither doe the other wrong. » (Chap. XXI).
http://teodor-shanin.narod.ru/elizabeth2nd-letter.html
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...
By the Sovereign's Command.
[Prince Phillip's signature]
http://valencehousecollections.co.uk/object/certificate-of-a...
By the Sovereign's Command / Grant of the Dignity of an Ordinary Officer / of the Civil Division of the Order of the British Empire / to Alderman Albert Edward Ball.
"Confirmé la présente copie et par ordre du Souverain Grand Président, Souverain des Souverains"
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Léviathan_(Thomas_Hobbes)
Thomas_Hobbes, Leviathan :
...il peut donc arriver, comme c'est souvent le cas dans un État, qu'un sujet soit mis à mort sur l'ordre du Souverain sans qu'il y ait de tort d'aucun des deux côtés...
[Original English version quoted in Footnote 24:]
...And therefore it may, and doth often happen in Common-wealths, that a Subject may be put to death, by the command of the Soveraign Power; and yet neither doe the other wrong. » (Chap. XXI).
http://teodor-shanin.narod.ru/elizabeth2nd-letter.html
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...
By the Sovereign's Command.
[Prince Phillip's signature]
http://valencehousecollections.co.uk/object/certificate-of-a...
By the Sovereign's Command / Grant of the Dignity of an Ordinary Officer / of the Civil Division of the Order of the British Empire / to Alderman Albert Edward Ball.
Note from asker:
| Hi Nathalie, Thanks for the references! This is a contemporary document, and in French, "par ordre du Souverain" sounds very outdated. I'm puzzled... |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Eliza Hall
: Yes, and I agree that since this means Elizabeth II the feminine would be correct here. @Asker: this is formal and outdated in EN too, because it's an official government act ordered by the Queen. This is how it's supposed to sound.
22 hrs
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Thank you Eliza. Yes, I mentioned the feminine in the Discussion above.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
47 mins
Samuel Clarisse
France
France
Native in French
France
Always keeping in mind the audience
Native in: French (Variants: Standard-France, Swiss, Canadian, Belgian, Luxembourgish) 
Works in: English to French, Spanish to French
Related KudoZ points
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48
Subordonné de la souveraineté
Une suggestion... (sous le commandement de la souveraineté)
Discussion
Plenty of examples in the UK - diplomas, certificates, OBEs... etc.
Here are some more examples - dated 2017 (signed by PM Theresa May):
https://www.dsnmltd.com/packages/dsnm/themes/dsnm/certificat...
and 1995 (signed by PM John Major):
http://www.jamesdewhurst.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Quee...