Mar 14, 2023 22:32
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Spanish term

explotar huevos

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A text about a contemporary artist in Argentina who deals with feminist themes, I suspect this is some sort of pun involving the word "huevos" which is used locally, and colloquially, to refer to testicles:
Con una práctica de taller en la que acopla distintas materialidades, Sofía Quirno presenta una instalaciones inmersivas centradas en pinturas donde los elementos en el espacio hacen ecos unos de otros. Sus obras citan referencias a mujeres absorbidas dentro de paisajes lunares y realizan homenajes a artistas como Sarah Lucas y Francesca Woodman que en el arte contemporáneo hicieron explotar huevos a su alrededor.

It seems that both Lucas and Woodman worked with eggs, but a literal translation makes little sense to me
Thanks

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Giovanni Rengifo Mar 20, 2023:
@Wendy Gosselin I think we all want to know what translation you ended up suggesting to your client here. Could you please share it with us? I'd be very curious to know.
bigedsenior Mar 18, 2023:
One thousan eggs ins nf of Sarah Lucas' premier works. Women came to a museum and literally threw one thousan against a huge canvas.
If you cut and paste this link, you can see it, too.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?&q=sarah lucas eggs in ar...
O G V Mar 15, 2023:
@Wendy sería genial recabar detalles de quien escribió el texto acerca de "hicieron explotar huevos". ¿A qué se alude con "huevos"?, ¿es símbolo del machismo?, ¿hay alusión a los que ponen en las obras?... parece sugerir más ataque al machismo que alusión a los huevos de gallina de sus creaciones artísticas.
Para verter la expresión al inglés si hay que incluir los de gallina hay que decir eggs. No sé si eggs sirve como metáfora de testículos, parece que coloquialmente no, aunque sí aparece en descripciones científicas.
la opción de redoblar la frase en estos casos puede ser una buena salida.
O G V Mar 15, 2023:
propuse eggs pensando que valdría para las llamadas tb pelotas (testículos) y para los huevos de gallina de las obras de las artistas pero parece que "eggs" no es "eso" en inglés, vaya...
Hay foros en los que se comenta que no pero aparecen textos científicos en los que se usa egg para describirlos
¿puede funcionar como metáfora o no?

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Y en esta página de la bbc aluden a eggs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/spanish/cool/sexual.shtml
neilmac Mar 15, 2023:
My take Although I agree with Giovanni that "ball busting" is the essence of the phrase, in the sense of iconoclastic/innovative, the issue for me would be how to work the metaphor into the translated text in an appropriate register.
O G V Mar 15, 2023:
"que en el arte contemporáneo hicieron explotar huevos a su alrededor..." se hace fácil interpretarlo como que fueron un revulsivo, un ataque al machismo que estaría simbolizado por los huevos.
Puede haber un juego de palabras con el hecho que los usaran de verdad en sus obras (aunque no se ve que los hicieran explotar).
Pero, a todas luces, "hicieron explotar" no remite directamente a sacar partido, aprovechar, utilizar ni nada similar.
Rhiannon Johnson Mar 15, 2023:
I think reading up on Sarah Lucas and Francesca Woodman can also shed light on the best translation of this phrase. Indeed they both produced controversial works.
Emiliano Pantoja Mar 14, 2023:
surrounded by controversy
AllegroTrans Mar 14, 2023:
Wendy What does your gut instinct tell you, given that you probably have read more about this artist than most of us? And is this really a translation question?

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Spanish term (edited): hicieron explotar huevos alrededor
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made eggs explode around them/have shook the machismo around them


una literal y una recreación

- and pay homage to artists such as Sarah Lucas and Francesca Woodman who in contemporary art made eggs explode around them.


- and pay homage to artists such as Sarah Lucas and Francesca Woodman who in contemporary art have shook the machismo around them.


ejemplo con otro mal similar, el racismo

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combinables como refuerzo (machismo) y contextualización (huevos)

and pay homage to artists such as Sarah Lucas and Francesca Woodman who in contemporary art made eggs explode and have shook the machismo around them.
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neutral Giovanni Rengifo : As far as I know, it's "shaken." I'm surprised none of the native English speakers mentioned anything about this.
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to bust someone's balls

I think you're right to assume that "huevos" (the same as "pelotas") refer to "testicles", so I think the expression I'm suggesting would fit in well here. Using the word "eggs" or a literal translation would probably be not understood.

As an alternative, I'd suggest "to touch some people's sensitivities".

In any event, I think either one of these alternative would work here
and I hope you'll find these suggestions useful.


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agree neilmac : First thing that sprang to mind here… ballbusting :-)
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I'm glad we're on the same page here Neil.
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cracked some eggs around them (and bust/broke some balls while at it)

What if you combine the terms, given that the pun is lost in translation? Especially taking into account that, as O G V and Taña Dalglish said, the artist mentioned literally used eggs in their art.

"and pay homage to artists such as Sarah Lucas and Francesca Woodman who, in contemporary art, cracked some eggs around them (and bust/broke some balls while at it)."

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Or another option: "broke some eggs (and balls!) around them."
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agree O G V : buena combinación parece
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agree Amanda Foy : great rendering of the apparent double meaning
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broke the mold

Both these artists created art that was radically different. It may be challenging, but "busting balls" (which means being very tiresome and irritating) gives quite the wrong impression. I think "breaking the mold" is a better way of conveying something shatteringly innovative.

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"Broke the mold, and some eggs while they were at it" (or "as well") That way you do not ignore the reference to the eggs that were indeed used in some of their works while not having to resort to crude connotations totally unsuited to your text
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agree O G V : sí, se alude a remover conciencias o romper moldes pero... ¿y los huevos?//¡De lo más ocurrente!. saludos.
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Gracias! Fijate si te gusta como lo arreglé.
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I agree with Liz. I think it is just "working with eggs" as a medium of expression.

Sarah Lucas was one of the young British artists who emerged in the nineties, using visual puns, humour and sensationalist tabloid images to interrogate traditional gender depictions. A series of twelve self portraits in the National Galleries collection shows her playing around with ideas of femininity and masculinity, using **fried eggs and a banana**, for example, to make confrontational or comical poses. https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/features/r...

https://emuseum.mfah.org/objects/16958/boy-with-egg
Francesca Woodman Boy with Egg

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Francesca Woodman was an important figure in the world of art and culture, known for her influential photography. Her works were often self-portraits that often explored female identity, the body, and mortality. Some of her most famous works include 'Space2', 'Untitled, Providence', and **'Eggs 2'**. Her experimental and bold approach to her pieces made her a vital part of the art world, and her works are still admired and celebrated today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesca_Woodman
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agree Alan Otero
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metáfora de remover conciencias

aunque usan huevos, sugiere más metáfora de remover conciencias (se supone que masculinas o machistas) o algo más radical

una traducción literal sería plausible pero preguntar a la autora del texto puede ser esclarecedor

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