Oct 31, 2023 08:42
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la Denominación de Origen Tequila 156
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Any Tequila experts out there?
This appears in a certificate of conformity for Tequila from Mexico for translation to British English.
Context: Una vez que se ha demostrado cumplimiento con las disposiciones establecidas en la Norma Oficial Mexicana NOM-006-SCFI-2012, Bebidas Alcoholicas-Tequila-Especificaciones en vigor, y contar con Dictamen Tecnico C-835, Autorizacion para producir Tequila DGN.312.06.2013.1061, Numero de Registro del Productor Autorizado que acompanara la Contrasena oficial NOM 1436, y *** Autorizacion para el uso de la Denominacion de Origen Tequila 156***
I am happy with the whole text apart from I am not sure where to put "156". From the research I have done it appears that this refers to the Article in the Intellectual Property Law that describes the Designation/Appellation of Origin.
A further question if this is allowed. The Tequila Requlating Council uses both Appelation of Origin and Designation of Origin. I am not sure what the difference is but have gone with Appellation of Origin as this seems to be used more in the Tequila context. https://www.crt.org.mx/index.php/en/pages-2/proteccion-del-t...
TIA
This appears in a certificate of conformity for Tequila from Mexico for translation to British English.
Context: Una vez que se ha demostrado cumplimiento con las disposiciones establecidas en la Norma Oficial Mexicana NOM-006-SCFI-2012, Bebidas Alcoholicas-Tequila-Especificaciones en vigor, y contar con Dictamen Tecnico C-835, Autorizacion para producir Tequila DGN.312.06.2013.1061, Numero de Registro del Productor Autorizado que acompanara la Contrasena oficial NOM 1436, y *** Autorizacion para el uso de la Denominacion de Origen Tequila 156***
I am happy with the whole text apart from I am not sure where to put "156". From the research I have done it appears that this refers to the Article in the Intellectual Property Law that describes the Designation/Appellation of Origin.
A further question if this is allowed. The Tequila Requlating Council uses both Appelation of Origin and Designation of Origin. I am not sure what the difference is but have gone with Appellation of Origin as this seems to be used more in the Tequila context. https://www.crt.org.mx/index.php/en/pages-2/proteccion-del-t...
TIA
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Oct 31, 2023 13:08: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Other"
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philgoddard
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Denomination of Origin Tequila 156
It's explained here:
http://www.ianchadwick.com/tequila/nom_dot.htm
Denomination of Origin Tequila (DOT) 156 refers to "tequila artesanal de Los Altos de Jalisco".
http://www.ianchadwick.com/tequila/nom_dot.htm
Denomination of Origin Tequila (DOT) 156 refers to "tequila artesanal de Los Altos de Jalisco".
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| That's a great reference. Thank you Phil. |
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Comment: "Thank you. I actually went with Appellation of Origin Tequila 156 but yours was the best reference."
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Tequila (Patron) 156 (Protected) Designation of Origin
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Category:Products_w...
The main article for this category is **protected designation of origin**.
Protected designation of origin...
"These laws protects the names of wines, cheeses, hams, sausage, olives, beer, and even regional breads, fruits, and vegetables."
"Patrón 156" refers to the winery.
My credentials: I live 15 minutes from the Mexican border.
The main article for this category is **protected designation of origin**.
Protected designation of origin...
"These laws protects the names of wines, cheeses, hams, sausage, olives, beer, and even regional breads, fruits, and vegetables."
"Patrón 156" refers to the winery.
My credentials: I live 15 minutes from the Mexican border.
Note from asker:
| Hi Muriel, thank you so much for this. All I found when I searched for 156 was the article of the law! Are you sure that designation of origin is better than appellation of origin? https://www.tequila.net/tequila-faqs/what-is-the-appellation-of-origin-for-tequila.html |
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philgoddard
: I don't see where "Patrón" comes from. And surely tequila is made in a distillery.
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You are right about the distillery. Then "Patrón" is the manufacturer.
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designation of origin Tequila as defined in art. 156
Tienes razón, 156 se refiere al artículo de la ley y en él se define qué es denominación de origen, lo cual responde a tu segunda pregunta, la Ley de la Propiedad Industrial usa exclusivamente el término denominación. El uso de apelación deriva del francés, pues al parecer fue Francia uno de los primeros (si no el primer) país en introducir la appellation d'origine contrôlée, pero es un término que y hoy ya no se usa en este contexto.
https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachment/file/235543/Ley_de...
http://sil.gobernacion.gob.mx/Archivos/Documentos/2011/11/as...
https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachment/file/235543/Ley_de...
http://sil.gobernacion.gob.mx/Archivos/Documentos/2011/11/as...
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philgoddard
: I don't believe it's anything to do with article 156. It's a code for the region where this particular tequila is made.
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The term “geographical indications”, in its broad sense, includes a variety of concepts used in international treaties and national/regional jurisdictions, such as: appellation of origin (AO), protected designation of origin (PDO) and protected geographical indication (PGI). For instance,
“Geographical indication” is defined in the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) and in the Geneva Act of the Lisbon Agreement on Appellations of Origin and Geographical Indications.
“Appellation of origin” is defined in the Lisbon Agreement for the Protection of Appellations of Origin and their International Registration and in the Geneva Act of the Lisbon Agreement on Appellations of Origin and Geographical Indications.
“Protected Designation of Origin (PDO)” and “Protected Geographical Indication (PGI)” are terms used within the European Union.
https://www.wipo.int/geo_indications/en/
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Language requirements:
The labeling requirements above must appear in English (U.K. or U.S.).
For more information on labeling specific to alcohol beverages, please visit the UK Food Standards Agency website.
Wine-Specific Labeling:
The following must appear on a label in a single field of vision (e.g., can be viewed without having to turn the bottle), except for the importer’s details, lot number, and allergenic ingredients.
Mandatory
Class/type of wine
Appellation of origin or name of protected designation of origin/geographical indication
Country of origin (e.g., “Product of …”)
Alcohol content
Bottler/producer information – name and address
Importer information – name and address, preceded by the word(s) “Importer” or “Imported by”
Sugar content (if sparkling wine)
Allergenic ingredients (e.g., “Contains sulphites”)
Lot identification with the marking preceded by the letter "L".
Optional
Vintage year (at least 85% of the grapes used to make the product must have been harvested in the year in question)
Grape variety
The UK Food Standards Agency has published further information on wine labeling here.
https://www.ttb.gov/itd/international-affairs-resources-for-...
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Glad to be of help :-)
“Geographical indication” is defined in the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) and in the Geneva Act of the Lisbon Agreement on Appellations of Origin and Geographical Indications.
“Appellation of origin” is defined in the Lisbon Agreement for the Protection of Appellations of Origin and their International Registration and in the Geneva Act of the Lisbon Agreement on Appellations of Origin and Geographical Indications.
“Protected Designation of Origin (PDO)” and “Protected Geographical Indication (PGI)” are terms used within the European Union.
https://www.wipo.int/geo_indications/en/
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Note added at 1 hr (2023-10-31 10:36:55 GMT)
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Language requirements:
The labeling requirements above must appear in English (U.K. or U.S.).
For more information on labeling specific to alcohol beverages, please visit the UK Food Standards Agency website.
Wine-Specific Labeling:
The following must appear on a label in a single field of vision (e.g., can be viewed without having to turn the bottle), except for the importer’s details, lot number, and allergenic ingredients.
Mandatory
Class/type of wine
Appellation of origin or name of protected designation of origin/geographical indication
Country of origin (e.g., “Product of …”)
Alcohol content
Bottler/producer information – name and address
Importer information – name and address, preceded by the word(s) “Importer” or “Imported by”
Sugar content (if sparkling wine)
Allergenic ingredients (e.g., “Contains sulphites”)
Lot identification with the marking preceded by the letter "L".
Optional
Vintage year (at least 85% of the grapes used to make the product must have been harvested in the year in question)
Grape variety
The UK Food Standards Agency has published further information on wine labeling here.
https://www.ttb.gov/itd/international-affairs-resources-for-...
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Glad to be of help :-)
Note from asker:
| Thanks for all this research Helena. It is really useful. : ) |
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