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50th percentile

English answer:

a point seperate 50 percent of good from the 50 percent poor

Aug 27, 2005 15:46
18 yrs ago
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English term

50th percentile

English Social Sciences Mathematics & Statistics
In 2001, less than 1% of the students scored at or above the 50th percentile on the reading test, but in 2002, 8% of the students were able to score at or above the 50th percentile.
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Sep 1, 2005 13:15: RHELLER changed "Field (specific)" from "Education / Pedagogy" to "Mathematics & Statistics"

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a point seperate 50 percent of good from the 50 percent poor

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We administer a reading test for a sample representative of the entire population in this case students. We can divide this group to 100 groups on the basis of scores they get in this test and called them as 1st percentile to 100th percentile. For example we can compute a score/point which separate 25 percent of excellent students from the remaining 75 percent. As well as we can compute a point / score which separate 50 percent of good from 50 percent of poor students in this study. This point is called median .We can compute any other percentile for example a point/ score which separate 20 percent of very good students from the other. This norm allows us to compare other students. In 2001 we administered this test for a group of students and we observed only one percent of them get a score which is equal or above of median score or 50th percentile but in 2002 we administered this test for a group of students and we observed 8 percent of them get a score which is equal or above of this score. Note that in the original sample 50 percent could get a score equal or above this score. But in our two samples in 2001 and 2002 only 1 and 8 percent respectively could get this score. So may be this test belongs to other population or other country or may be our groups don’t belong to this population and other norms should be developed for them.
Peer comment(s):

agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : good explanation :-)
2 mins
Thank you.
agree Roddy Stegemann : The key to your explanation is that the group in question does not represent the whole, but its performance is measured against it. Very nice explanation. You deserve the points.
18 hrs
Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you all! I got the meaning of the 50th percentile from Google, but I needed an explanation whcih was more clear in fareedeh's answer. "
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50th percentile

Well, I think I have to disagree. I read it as two groups of students, not an individual's results in comparison to a group. One group, the test takers (could be a class, or a particular school, or whatever) are being compared to the national average. In this particular school, let's say, there has been an improvement in their average scores in comparison to the whole group average (50th percentile) from 2001 to 2002.

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Note added at 1 hr 12 mins (2005-08-27 16:59:27 GMT)
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I certainly could be misreading Rita's answer. And my distinction is a small one - that "test taker" (singular) can only mean one student. I think it would have to be test takers or test group. ?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Drunya : I am not sure I understand how exactly your answer is different. As Rita said, one of her groups is all test takers; the other is just test takers in one school. Only 1% of the students in one group scored within the range of 50% of those from the other
14 mins
(sorry Drunya - I put my response to you above)
agree Roddy Stegemann : Your explanation is also very worthy, but fareedeh ghassemi's is more complete. Both of you appear to have captured the essence of the question, as I perceive it.
19 hrs
thanks
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see explanation

There is a pre-existing score distribution with which subsequent results are compared. The 50th percentile would be then the "average" score for the test.

So in 2001, only 1% of students achieved the average score or better; this situation showed an improvement in 2002.



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As Fareedeh correctly points out, the 50th percentile is the midpoint of the distribution; sorry if my use of "average" is misleading!
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test taker scored better than 50% of the other test takers

A score at the 50th percentile means the test taker scored better than 50% of the students taking the test. By mathematical definition, a score at the 50th ...
www.calcare.org/oldsite/arguments/wobegon.htm

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see statistics glossary

Percentile rank: The proportion of values in a distribution that a specific value is greater than or equal to. For example, if you received a mark of 95% on a math test and this mark was greater than or equal to the marks of 88% of students then you would be in the 88th percentile.

http://www.statcan.ca/english/edu/power/glossary/gloss.htm#P

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the other test takers = the reference group (as Kim pointed out)

I have been following these scores for many years while my sons were in school and taking the SAT and other important exams.
Peer comment(s):

agree Drunya : Well, yes and no. It must have been 50% of ALL students taking the test THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense (if only 1% of pupils got above a certain score, the score would have set the 99th percentile, not the 50th).
2 mins
"of the other test takers" means all those who took the same test
agree hecdan (X)
11 mins
gracias!
agree jennifer newsome (X)
14 mins
Hi Jen!
agree TranslateThis : test taker, yes
22 mins
thanks!
agree Nick Lingris : OK, let's just call it "the national average" and I'll be on my way. :-} // I agree. Not the same. Kim's suggestion is more accurate.
22 mins
not the same but thanks anyway :-)
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
23 mins
thanks Vicky :-)
agree Kim Metzger : Or "of the reference group" http://www.ncrel.org/tech/claims/glossary.html
25 mins
hi Kim :-)
agree Victor Potapov : yes - and I feel it's about students of a certain school/ a school district as compared to a NATIONAL average. Sounds strange - but at the end is right.
1 hr
depends on the test - see added glossary definition/ thanks Victor :-)
agree Can Altinbay : It means 1% and 8% of whatever group they are talking about scored better than 50% of all who took the test. I don't understand why your answer is under debate. The meaning of this term has nothing to do with some preset level.
1 hr
because, Dear Can, people love to discuss things (which is fine with me :-)
agree Stefanie Sendelbach
1 hr
thanks Stefanie !
agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : Hi Rita! Not debating your answer Sis ;-) However, given the context it would seem to me that there is a reference distribution with which the results in 2001 & 2002 are compared//Nice time Down Under :-)))
3 hrs
thanks Sue - how was vacation? dur dur la rentrée?
neutral Roddy Stegemann : The Asker's question appears to be about more than just the meaning of the 50th percentile -- something that anyone who knows how to use the internet could easily find on their own, as Rita did!
19 hrs
agree Robert Donahue (X) : It always amuses me how the simple questions tend to be the ones that generate the most argument. Maybe because everybody gets the simple ones and therefore has an opinion whereas we all collectively scratch our heads on the tricky ones. : )
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Hi Rob - you may be right but it also would have helped if we knew more details about the test: was it national? which country, etc. - narrows things down a bit :-)
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