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English term or phrase:
canteen and facilities list
English answer:
the canteen and the list of items a prisoner may have in his/her possession
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The juveniles must receive a young people - appropriate ‘Information Pack’ or booklet/handout, which includes information about matters such as internal and external support options, lock/unlock times, visits, canteen and facilities list, the local rewards and sanctions scheme and about the procedures for making complaints
As far as I know canteen is a place where food and drink are served, but what is a canteen and facilities list?
Thank you.
The juveniles must receive a young people - appropriate ‘Information Pack’ or booklet/handout, which includes information about matters such as internal and external support options, lock/unlock times, visits, canteen and facilities list, the local rewards and sanctions scheme and about the procedures for making complaints
As far as I know canteen is a place where food and drink are served, but what is a canteen and facilities list?
Thank you.
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the canteen and the list of items a prisoner may have in his/her possession
In the document quoted here, "canteen and facilities list" occurs in a list of items which then continues with the "local rewards and sanctions scheme". This seems to imply that "canteen and facilities list" is a single item, and that it therefore means a list of the canteen and (other) facilities.
However, I believe this is not so. The document quoted is issued by the UK Ministry of Justice to governers of prisons holding young people. I will not cite the URL, but anyone interested can find it by searching.
Another similar document, HM Prison Service Order Number 4950, "Regime for Juveniles", expresses a slightly different version of the same thing (again, I'll withhold the URL for reasons for confidentiality):
"All newly received young people must be issued with literature giving step-by-step information about the reception process. The young person must receive an ‘Information Pack’ or booklet/handout (whenever possible in their own language), which includes information such as lock/unlock times, visits, canteen and facilities list. The young person must also be provided with information about the procedures for making complaints and about the role of the IMB, the advocacy service, where available, and the Prisons Ombudsman."
Here, as we can see, the phrase comes at the end of a sentence, which clearly implies that "canteen" and "facilities list" are two separate items. I think this is definitely the correct reading. What may have happened is this document has been edited, not very expertly, to produce the version in the source document (the one from the Ministry of Justice), where the two sentences have been run together.
At any rate, I am sure it means that young prisoners must be given information about the canteen and about the facilities list, because the expression "facilities list" has a particular meaning in UK prison language:
"Facilities List
A list of items a prisoner may keep in possession, subject to Volumetric Control.
For more information see PSO1250."
http://www.insidetime.org/info-glossary.asp
So despite what you would have supposed, this does not refer to a list of the prison facilities, but a list of what a prisoner is allowed to have in his/her possession.
If you search for "prison"+"UK"+"facilities list" you will find many more instances of the term, as for example here:
"HMP LEWES Visiting Information
Property may be handed in Monday - Friday. The prisoner can tell you in advance what can be handed in; there is a copy of the 'Facilities List', which explains what can be handed in, both on prison wings and in the Visits Hall."
http://www.insidetime.org/info-visitorsinfo.asp?nameofprison...
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If you are interested, Prison Service Order 1250, giving full details of the "facilities list", can be consulted here (link to Word document):
http://www.insidetime.org/info-rules-results.asp?rID=119&c=p...
However, I believe this is not so. The document quoted is issued by the UK Ministry of Justice to governers of prisons holding young people. I will not cite the URL, but anyone interested can find it by searching.
Another similar document, HM Prison Service Order Number 4950, "Regime for Juveniles", expresses a slightly different version of the same thing (again, I'll withhold the URL for reasons for confidentiality):
"All newly received young people must be issued with literature giving step-by-step information about the reception process. The young person must receive an ‘Information Pack’ or booklet/handout (whenever possible in their own language), which includes information such as lock/unlock times, visits, canteen and facilities list. The young person must also be provided with information about the procedures for making complaints and about the role of the IMB, the advocacy service, where available, and the Prisons Ombudsman."
Here, as we can see, the phrase comes at the end of a sentence, which clearly implies that "canteen" and "facilities list" are two separate items. I think this is definitely the correct reading. What may have happened is this document has been edited, not very expertly, to produce the version in the source document (the one from the Ministry of Justice), where the two sentences have been run together.
At any rate, I am sure it means that young prisoners must be given information about the canteen and about the facilities list, because the expression "facilities list" has a particular meaning in UK prison language:
"Facilities List
A list of items a prisoner may keep in possession, subject to Volumetric Control.
For more information see PSO1250."
http://www.insidetime.org/info-glossary.asp
So despite what you would have supposed, this does not refer to a list of the prison facilities, but a list of what a prisoner is allowed to have in his/her possession.
If you search for "prison"+"UK"+"facilities list" you will find many more instances of the term, as for example here:
"HMP LEWES Visiting Information
Property may be handed in Monday - Friday. The prisoner can tell you in advance what can be handed in; there is a copy of the 'Facilities List', which explains what can be handed in, both on prison wings and in the Visits Hall."
http://www.insidetime.org/info-visitorsinfo.asp?nameofprison...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-01-18 10:32:59 GMT)
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If you are interested, Prison Service Order 1250, giving full details of the "facilities list", can be consulted here (link to Word document):
http://www.insidetime.org/info-rules-results.asp?rID=119&c=p...
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list giving details of the canteen and other facilities
You were right - it's odd but that's what it means
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But then "young people - appropriate" is odd, too. Good luck!
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OK, thanks toCharles, I now understand more about the meaning of facilities in the context of a prison. This will presumably be a list of all those things to which the prisoner is entitled - I thought they were called "privileges". I believe this is a very important part of everyday prison life - whether you are eligible to eat, drink, own or do a particular thing gains greater importance.
I still have no doubt that this is one, unique list. Otherwise the plural would have been used.
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But then "young people - appropriate" is odd, too. Good luck!
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OK, thanks toCharles, I now understand more about the meaning of facilities in the context of a prison. This will presumably be a list of all those things to which the prisoner is entitled - I thought they were called "privileges". I believe this is a very important part of everyday prison life - whether you are eligible to eat, drink, own or do a particular thing gains greater importance.
I still have no doubt that this is one, unique list. Otherwise the plural would have been used.
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'Canteen' and 'Facilities List'
I work for the newspaper 'insidetime' quoted and wrote the extracts quoted. I can clear up confusion.
A 'Facilities List' in a prison in the UK can also be called an 'IP List' and lists exactly what items a prisoner can have in his possession and how he/she can acquire it (Buy it themselves/ have it sent in/ have it handed in). Often items are listed specifically (ie PlayStation 2). Items on the list includes clothing, electrical items, stationery, games etc.
Although prisoners may have items on the list they are only allowed a certain quantity of possessions and these must fit in two 'volumetric boxes' each about 1 meter by half a metre by 30cm.
Property they may have depends upon their 'Incentive Level' (Basic/Standard/Enhanced).
Canteen refers to consumable items they can buy once a week such as biscuits, sweets, food, toiletries etc. Generally they get an order form which they fill out and all the goods are delivered to them in a sealed clear poly bag.
Everything the prisoner buys must be bought from their 'spends' account which is a special non-cash prison account into which is placed their earnings and a certain amount of 'Private Cash' (sent in bt friends & family). A standard prisoner currently earns between £8 and £15 per week and can have £15.50 of Private Cash each week.
I hope that clarifies the confusion.
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If you need to know anything about prisons and terminology we have a 'Glossary' section with 500 entries and an 'Abbreviation and Acronym' factsheet.
If you are lost on anything else email me at [email protected] and I will try to help.
A 'Facilities List' in a prison in the UK can also be called an 'IP List' and lists exactly what items a prisoner can have in his possession and how he/she can acquire it (Buy it themselves/ have it sent in/ have it handed in). Often items are listed specifically (ie PlayStation 2). Items on the list includes clothing, electrical items, stationery, games etc.
Although prisoners may have items on the list they are only allowed a certain quantity of possessions and these must fit in two 'volumetric boxes' each about 1 meter by half a metre by 30cm.
Property they may have depends upon their 'Incentive Level' (Basic/Standard/Enhanced).
Canteen refers to consumable items they can buy once a week such as biscuits, sweets, food, toiletries etc. Generally they get an order form which they fill out and all the goods are delivered to them in a sealed clear poly bag.
Everything the prisoner buys must be bought from their 'spends' account which is a special non-cash prison account into which is placed their earnings and a certain amount of 'Private Cash' (sent in bt friends & family). A standard prisoner currently earns between £8 and £15 per week and can have £15.50 of Private Cash each week.
I hope that clarifies the confusion.
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Note added at 44 days (2012-03-02 23:56:48 GMT) Post-grading
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If you need to know anything about prisons and terminology we have a 'Glossary' section with 500 entries and an 'Abbreviation and Acronym' factsheet.
If you are lost on anything else email me at [email protected] and I will try to help.
Example sentence:
The facilities list allows three pairs of trainers to be sent in
Canteen orders must be in by Wednesday
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