Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

solidità della scrittura

English translation:

tightness of the score

Added to glossary by Lorraine Buckley (X)
Nov 21, 2010 12:02
13 yrs ago
Italian term

solidità della scrittura

Italian to English Art/Literary Music Recensione
This is part of a music critic's review
"un florilegio di brevi pezzi dall'espressività studiata, non superficiale, percepibile anche dalla solidità della scrittura"

I'm afraid I have very little music vocabulary - 'solidity of the score' sounds anything but artistic to me! Any help much appreciated!
Change log

Nov 28, 2010 22:28: Lorraine Buckley (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1081837">Lorraine Buckley (X)'s</a> old entry - "solidità della scrittura"" to ""tightness of the writing/score""

Discussion

fionn Nov 23, 2010:
tightness/robustness I don't want to blow my own trumpet (sorry for the terrible pun...), but... Well, actually I think this input might back up the use of 'tightness', meaning that despite the fact they are short pieces they hold together very well (coherent) with nothing superfluous about them; they are solid despite their brevity. Besides, I found another reference which indicates the terms is used this way ("energy and structural tightness"):

"Classic style, up to and including Beethoven, is more about rhythm and time (note groupings and rests), dramatic tension, periodic phrases, and structure (sonata form). Beethoven's harmony is rather simple. I think it's his energy and structural tightness (as well as his position standing at the threshold of the romantic era, with the expansion of the pianoforte to an instrument simulating an entire orchestra) that make him great." (http://pianosociety.com/new/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3601...

Robustness might work, but perhaps it sounds too punchy for the context?
Lorraine Buckley (X) (asker) Nov 23, 2010:
further clarificaton of 'solidità' I have received this input "Solidita' della scrittura beethoveniana, significa che la Serenata, pur composta di brevi pezzi, rimane coerente, scritta con maestria (come una solida architettura) e fluidita'.
E' un complimento al genio di Beethoven, insomma".
I am still short on ideas as to how to express in musically-acceptable terms, the 'fluidità/maestria/solidità/coerenza'. Any further suggestions/confirmation (perhaps of self-confidence?) much appreciated.
Lorraine Buckley (X) (asker) Nov 21, 2010:
genre sorry, classical - a serenata in re maggiore op. 8, to be precise!
dropinka (X) Nov 21, 2010:
genre? Lorraine, are we talking about classical or popular music?

Proposed translations

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tightness of the writing/score

I'm no expert either but this occurred to me as an option that would make sense.

Another possibility would be "the robustness of the writing/score", which gets a few relevant hits.
Example sentence:

But with Bach, such is the tautness and tightness of the writing that if you

A central characteristic of his music is the tightness of the material.

Note from asker:
Thanks, Fionn. Would you say 'robustness of the score' fits now I have had the further input (see discussion)?
Peer comment(s):

agree Jim Tucker (X) : Musicians and musicologists say this a lot.
5 days
cheers Jim!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for your input. It was difficult to choose, and in the end the author, a professional musician, opted for this answer. '."
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concreteness / vigour of the score

Just a couple of ideas, I tried to replace solidita' with some synonyms just to see what it might mean in this context, as it doesn't make much sense in Italian either!
Note from asker:
Thanks, Sara. I've put a question to the author while awaiting more input.
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self-assertiveness of the score

The way I read it, the Italian intends to focus on Beethoven's self-confidence as a composer, whose knowledge of his subject matter was based on solid ground/foundation, so to speak.

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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2010-11-23 15:36:46 GMT)
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Hiya, Lorraine (nice pic!)
I feel the feedback from your client points in this direction. Beethoven showed his genius even on (apparently) less demanding scores. If you find self-assertiveness too strong, self-confidence or self-assuredness might work. I'd go for something remarking his mastery over composition.
Note from asker:
Barbara - thanks for this. Would you confirm this also in view of the note I just added to the discussion?
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