Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
селитрород
English translation:
nitrogenium
Added to glossary by
Yuriy Sokha (X)
Nov 25, 2007 08:20
16 yrs ago
Russian term
селитрород
Russian to English
Science
Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng
Опять тематика времен становления химии - старое название азота. Может быть, кому-нибудь попадался английский эквивалент? Писать что-то вроде salpetrigen не хочется из-за ассоциаций с немецкими терминами для нитритов.
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Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | nitrogenium |
Roman Bulkiewicz
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| 3 +1 | dephlogisticated air or noxious air |
Jack Doughty
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Proposed translations
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Roman Bulkiewicz
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nitrogenium
наверно, так и есть.
nitrogenium как раз и означает "родящий селитру"
nitrum/nitre (лат/гр) = селитра.
В английском тоже есть слово nitre/niter в близком значении.
Со временем этимология смазалась, и префикс nitro- стали употреблять в значении "содержащий nitrogen".
Вот интересная цитата:
[The Natural History of Nitre of W. Clark (1670)] "Nitrum, (nitron in Greek) or Nitre, is also called Sal-nitri, or salt-nitre, from its likeness to salt, and Sal-petrae, or Salt-petre, from its shooting on walls, and is also called by other various and aenigmatical names, It is no matter by what name it is called, so we agree about the thing."
http://www.history-science-technology.com/Articles/articles ...
Еще здесь:
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0149-6611(195202)67:2<103:T...
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Вторая ссылка в сокращенном варианте:
http://tinyurl.com/2bepkt
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-11-25 12:01:17 GMT)
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В гугловской сылке на страницу jstor.org есть текст, который на самой странице недоступен:
It seems established that Greek nitron and Latin nitrum were used for both saltpeter and soda, which were not recognized as different substances. ...
http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=Latin nitrum
nitrogenium как раз и означает "родящий селитру"
nitrum/nitre (лат/гр) = селитра.
В английском тоже есть слово nitre/niter в близком значении.
Со временем этимология смазалась, и префикс nitro- стали употреблять в значении "содержащий nitrogen".
Вот интересная цитата:
[The Natural History of Nitre of W. Clark (1670)] "Nitrum, (nitron in Greek) or Nitre, is also called Sal-nitri, or salt-nitre, from its likeness to salt, and Sal-petrae, or Salt-petre, from its shooting on walls, and is also called by other various and aenigmatical names, It is no matter by what name it is called, so we agree about the thing."
http://www.history-science-technology.com/Articles/articles ...
Еще здесь:
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0149-6611(195202)67:2<103:T...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-11-25 11:56:47 GMT)
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Вторая ссылка в сокращенном варианте:
http://tinyurl.com/2bepkt
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-11-25 12:01:17 GMT)
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В гугловской сылке на страницу jstor.org есть текст, который на самой странице недоступен:
It seems established that Greek nitron and Latin nitrum were used for both saltpeter and soda, which were not recognized as different substances. ...
http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=Latin nitrum
Peer comment(s):
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Donald Scott Alexander
: "Nitrogenium" is good because it is a calque (but distinct from "nitrogen"). Terms like "noxious air" of "phlogisticated air" are less accurate, because they weren't 'pure' nitrogen (they included CO2). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory
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Jack Doughty
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dephlogisticated air or noxious air
History of Nitrogen
The History of Nitrogen. Discoverer: Daniel Rutherford. Discovered at: Scotland. Discovery date: 1772. Origin of name: From the Greek words "nitron genes" ...
web1.caryacademy.org/chemistry/rushin/StudentProjects/ElementWebSites/nitrogen/history.htm
The History of Nitrogen. Discoverer: Daniel Rutherford. Discovered at: Scotland. Discovery date: 1772. Origin of name: From the Greek words "nitron genes" ...
web1.caryacademy.org/chemistry/rushin/StudentProjects/ElementWebSites/nitrogen/history.htm
Peer comment(s):
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svetlana cosquéric
: noxious air ! " dephlogisticated air" is oxygen mattson.creighton.edu/History_Gas_Chemistry/Priestley.html
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