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Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

фильм состоялся

English translation:

the film came out well (удался / вышел хорошим / получился)

Added to glossary by Rachel Douglas
Aug 13, 2009 20:48
14 yrs ago
Russian term

фильм состоялся

Russian to English Art/Literary Cinema, Film, TV, Drama Success of a film
Somebody says, "Я уверен, что фильм состоялся". The film has not yet premiered, but this person has seen it, or was involved in making it. I think I understand what it means, but would like to be sure.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 = удался / вышел хорошим / получился
4 +10 the film is a success
4 +1 this movie packs a punch
4 +1 the film works

Discussion

Rachel Douglas (asker) Aug 14, 2009:
It's clear! Thank you, gentlemen, for the lively discussion. Don't sweat it on my account. The way I understood this was confirmed (thanks to all), so I wrote what I had initially intended to write: it "came out well". That sounds natural as a remark by an insider, somebody who worked on the movie and knows how it came out, though it hasn't yet officially premiered.
Michael Korovkin Aug 14, 2009:
Very simple, Vic: "The film has worked out". That's all there is to it. Bad, good, ugly, a box–office success or a box–office disaster, packing a punch or a fart – it has worked out, happened, came to fruition. Пук состоялся. Was it a success – well, who knows...
Victor Zagria Aug 14, 2009:
Михаил, так кАк это лучше объяснить Рэчел? На мой хлопский .. дак ето just euphamism to avoid 'I/we' construction? Фильм просто появился на свет, стал явлением (пока в ряду подобных), и дабы избежать "я-канья" (like in "we made it, guys, yahoooo!!!") изрекается скромное "фильм состоялся". Ваша подача, мэтр? :))
Michael Korovkin Aug 14, 2009:
ребЯ, не несите от себЯ... состояться – просто получиться. К славе, успеху и стратосферному качеству никакого отношения может не иметь. Просто вышло стать тем чем должен был стать. Пирогом, например. Или ямой в земле. Или Антихристом. Или фильмом... об Антихристе, или о пироге, или о яме в земле ...
Victor Zagria Aug 14, 2009:
ну это что у кого на уме..It depends on the instance, Gutbuster?
gutbuster Aug 14, 2009:
состояться напр., он состоялся как актер - стал мастером своего дела, получил славу, известность(а не просто стал/вышел хорошим актером
Victor Zagria Aug 13, 2009:
the film has gone through? has proved a success? is a sure success? We made it ...

Proposed translations

+5
4 mins
Selected

= удался / вышел хорошим / получился

например, succeed

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Note added at 1 час (2009-08-13 22:07:28 GMT)
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Рад помочь, успехов!
Note from asker:
Right, thank you! That's what I thought. I'm editing a translation where it was written as "that the film will become well established" and I want to edit that to "that the film came out well" - but I got nervous and started having doubts.
Peer comment(s):
agree Mikhail Korolev
19 mins
Спасибо за поддержку!
agree Viachaslau
45 mins
Спасибо за поддержку!
agree Marina Aidova
54 mins
Спасибо за поддержку!
agree Marina Aleyeva : Соглана с пояснением.
9 hrs
agree Alexei Shmouratko
12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to all - so much help from so many people, on a small question! I'm selecting Alexander's comment as most helpful because it confirmed in several ways that I had gotten the sense correctly, so I could use the version I prefer - "came out well"."
+10
1 min

the film is a success

...
Peer comment(s):
agree Eng-Rus/Rus-Eng
44 mins
Thank you.
agree Anna Poplavskaya (X)
54 mins
Thank you.
agree Oxana Snyder
2 hrs
Thank you.
agree Tatiana Lammers
5 hrs
Thank you.
agree gutbuster
8 hrs
Thank you.
agree Vanda Nissen
8 hrs
Thank you.
agree Iosif JUHASZ
9 hrs
Thank you.
agree Angela Greenfield
20 hrs
Thank you, Angela.
agree Armida Alvandyan
4 days
Thank you, Armida.
agree JangF
4 days
Thank you!
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+1
19 mins

this movie packs a punch

since it hasn't come out yet.

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Note added at 53 mins (2009-08-13 21:41:57 GMT)
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состояться как... means 'to reach a high professional level' rather than 'to become famous' (e. g. Кобе уже состоялся как игрок, Ле Брону это еще предстоит). Therefore Фильм состоялся means 'this movie is well done', but not 'This movie is a huge success'.
Peer comment(s):
neutral gutbuster : ИМХО оправдал возложенные на него надежды, pack a punch - это совсем другое
8 hrs
безотносительно к pack a punch, "оправдал возложенные на него надежды" здесь мне не понятно: так может сказать зритель, посмотревший фильм до премьеры? Как он может это знать?
agree Marina Aleyeva : Полностью согласна с пояснением. Whether it is a success or not (and it's not yet), it is well done. // Совершенно верно.
9 hrs
Cпасибо! Да, конечно, сказать это можно по разному, но высказывание о собственно фильме, а не о его рецепции публикой.
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+1
3 hrs

the film works

...

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Note added at 15 hrs (2009-08-14 12:06:02 GMT)
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okay, put "the film has worked out"
Peer comment(s):
agree Victor Zagria : something like that.. :))
7 hrs
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