Jul 3, 2009 18:42
14 yrs ago
Russian term
становища (бедуинов)
Russian to English
Art/Literary
History
I thought this was an encampment, someplace nomadic bedouins would stop. My author suggests "sanctuary" - thoughts?
Context is a work about missionary activity during the Byzantine period/Empire.
В 542 г. монофиситский патриарх Александрии Феодосий, пребывавший в Константинополе под покровительством императрицы Феодоры, по просьбе гассанидского князя Арефы рукоположил двух епископов для его владений: Якова Барадая и Феодора Аравийского, видимо, араба по происхождению. Феодор подчинялся патриарху Антиохии, но его епархия была «кочевой» – она охватывала hirtha, то есть становища бедуинов.
Context is a work about missionary activity during the Byzantine period/Empire.
В 542 г. монофиситский патриарх Александрии Феодосий, пребывавший в Константинополе под покровительством императрицы Феодоры, по просьбе гассанидского князя Арефы рукоположил двух епископов для его владений: Якова Барадая и Феодора Аравийского, видимо, араба по происхождению. Феодор подчинялся патриарху Антиохии, но его епархия была «кочевой» – она охватывала hirtha, то есть становища бедуинов.
Proposed translations
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4 +7 | camp / encampment | Mark Berelekhis |
4 +3 | nomad camps | Victor Zagria |
4 +1 | military camp (hirtha) | Eric Candle |
4 | a stopping place | Ellen Kraus |
4 | settlement | linguist09 (X) |
4 | Bedouin tent encampment | Maxim Suhodrev-Saksonov |
Change log
Jul 29, 2009 03:35: Mark Berelekhis changed "Field" from "Other" to "Art/Literary"
Proposed translations
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camp / encampment
Not sure why your author would suggest sanctuary, as everything in both dictionaries (Lingvo) and web (http://books.google.com/books?id=pfwAG3-rpzcC&pg=PA10&lpg=PA... suggests that you're 100% right.
Note from asker:
You reminded me that I read Shahid for terminology when I was first figuring this out. |
Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: A camp is definitely not a sanctuary, nor did these folks ever have any sanctuaries
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Ever the history buff, hehe... Thanks, Misha.
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Judith Hehir
: Ditto to both Mark and The Misha
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Many thanks, Judi.
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Aleksey Chervinskiy
: Миша, конечно же, преувеличивает про бедуинов, но то что становища - это не sanctuaries, это точно
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Many thanks, Aleksey. I'm afraid I wouldn't know either way.
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Piotrnikitin
22 hrs
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Thank you, Piotr.
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Dmitry Venyavkin
1 day 54 mins
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Thank you, Dmitry,
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Mikhail Korolev
1 day 2 hrs
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Thank you, klp.
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GaryG
: no corrections this time, Mark ;-)
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I welcome them when they're due :) Cheers, Gary!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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a stopping place
according to Oxford Russian Dict.
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Note added at 40 Min. (2009-07-03 19:23:26 GMT)
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and in line with www.:
Originally a stopping place in the summer for Bedouin to refresh themselves as it is a natural oasis and to enjoy the cool sea breezes. ...
www.responsibletravel.com/trip/Trip901480.htm
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Note added at 40 Min. (2009-07-03 19:23:26 GMT)
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and in line with www.:
Originally a stopping place in the summer for Bedouin to refresh themselves as it is a natural oasis and to enjoy the cool sea breezes. ...
www.responsibletravel.com/trip/Trip901480.htm
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military camp (hirtha)
"'Hirtha' is not a movable residential abode, but a military camp.
'Hirtha' is consonant not with Ghassanids (гассаниды) alleged nomadism, but with their function in the military system of Byzantium", -
'Byzantium and the Arabs in the sixth century by Irfan Shahid'
'Hirtha' is consonant not with Ghassanids (гассаниды) alleged nomadism, but with their function in the military system of Byzantium", -
'Byzantium and the Arabs in the sixth century by Irfan Shahid'
Peer comment(s):
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Piotrnikitin
: nothing military about this word. By analogy становища первобытного человека.
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11 hrs
settlement
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1 day 15 hrs
Bedouin tent encampment
Bedouins - are partly nomads, and partly are not.
Their encampments are composed of multiple large tents with the biggest tent belonging to the Sheich - the tribe leader.
Their encampments are composed of multiple large tents with the biggest tent belonging to the Sheich - the tribe leader.
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nomad camps
sic
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2009-07-06 10:24:19 GMT)
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Nomadic people or nomads (Greek: νομάδες, nomádes, "those who let pasture herds") are communities of people who move from one place to another, rather than settling permanently in one location. There are an estimated 30-40 million nomads in the world.[2] Many cultures have traditionally been nomadic, but traditional nomadic behavior is increasingly rare in industrialized countries. There are three kinds of nomads: hunter-gatherers moving between hunting grounds, pastoral nomads moving between pastures, and "peripatetic nomads" moving between customers.
Nomadic hunter-gatherers have by far the longest-lived subsistence method in human history, following seasonally available wild plants and game. Pastoralists raise herds and move with them so as not to deplete pasture beyond recovery in any one area. Peripatetic nomads are more common in industrialized nations, traveling from one territory to another and offering a trade wherever they go.
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2009-07-06 10:24:19 GMT)
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Nomadic people or nomads (Greek: νομάδες, nomádes, "those who let pasture herds") are communities of people who move from one place to another, rather than settling permanently in one location. There are an estimated 30-40 million nomads in the world.[2] Many cultures have traditionally been nomadic, but traditional nomadic behavior is increasingly rare in industrialized countries. There are three kinds of nomads: hunter-gatherers moving between hunting grounds, pastoral nomads moving between pastures, and "peripatetic nomads" moving between customers.
Nomadic hunter-gatherers have by far the longest-lived subsistence method in human history, following seasonally available wild plants and game. Pastoralists raise herds and move with them so as not to deplete pasture beyond recovery in any one area. Peripatetic nomads are more common in industrialized nations, traveling from one territory to another and offering a trade wherever they go.
Peer comment(s):
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Aleksey Chervinskiy
: or camp sites
56 mins
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спасибо. Алексей
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Olga Makarova
13 hrs
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спасибо за поддержку, Ольга!
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Vladimir Dubisskiy
: bedouin camps http://www.redsea-rangers.com/bedouins-lifestyle/
2 days 6 hrs
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спасибо за ссылку и поправку
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Discussion
Sanctuary has multiple meanings. A sanctuary is the consecrated area of a church or temple around its tabernacle or altar. An animal sanctuary is a place where animals live and are protected. In modern parlance the term is used to mean a place of safety.
Sanctuary as a sacred place
Right of asylum
Relating to political asylum
http://www.springerlink.com/content/p6n0pkt0273547h1
Somehow, the Mongols have made a home of it, with scattered nomad camps still dotting the plains, ramshackle villages and the occasional ruined monastery.