Glossary entry

Danish term or phrase:

kæft trit og retning

English translation:

robot-like discipline

Added to glossary by Diarmuid Kennan
Jun 3, 2012 23:16
11 yrs ago
Danish term

kæft trit og retning

Danish to English Other Marketing / Market Research
This seems to be a phrase (maybe sports related?).
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Jun 5, 2012 07:52: Diarmuid Kennan Created KOG entry

Discussion

564354352 (X) Jun 4, 2012:
The changing use of words in modern language I had actually never heard of the Urban Dictionary before, so I don't know what the intentions behind it are. But obviously (sometimes weirdly) some words do change meaning as years pass. Hence Danish words like 'bjørnetjeneste' and 'forfordelt' now have two opposite meanings depending on which generation you belong to. However, this doesn't mean that the 'old' sense of each of these words is now 'wrong'. It just means that different people use different words in different ways.

In this context, if you look at the Danish source term 'kæft, trit og retning', it has a negative connotation related to the way children were treated at school many years ago, including being beaten if they did not comply with teachers' rules, and maybe the way in which soldiers were (are?) supposed to blindly follow orders. In my book, that is 'old-school discipline', as in 'out of date'. If 'old-school discipline' in your book (or the asker's) is something positive, then it is not the right term to use here.
564354352 (X) Jun 4, 2012:
Matters of opinion Hi Marianne
Looking closer at the deifinition of 'old-school discipline' that I referred to earlier (must admit I didn't read it through), I question the validity of the Urban Dictionary at all.
In my humble opinion, you may be right in thinking that 'old-school' in general may be gaining a positive meaning on a par with 'old-world', but when you combine with 'discipline', the connotation is negative.
Christine Andersen Jun 4, 2012:
Square bashing Square bashing is not quite the same thing, but Gitte´s suggestion certainly rings a bell with me.
That is an army expression, but it was what we called the marching drill!
At my highly traditional boarding school (read old-fashioned, even then, but it has improved a lot since), we were always in groups or teams of one kind or another, whether it was games, singing in the choir or marching from the houses where we slept to the big dining hall.
At town Guide parades our troop always went in front because the others were not so good at marching!
But it was torture to a loner like me... even though I have many good memories too.

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robot-like discipline

Plenty of ways of saying this....this is Gyldendal's suggestion
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shut up and do what I say

strict discipline
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Your answer came it after I had to deliver, otherwise I would have used this. Thanks.
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old-school discipline

Found in www.ordbogen.com - and this makes very good sense, as it refers to the way children used to be treated at school many years ago.
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agree Christine Andersen : keep silent, keep in step and follow the one in front... that is actually how I remember we did a skit on school rules!
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disagree Marianne Sorensen : I think the meaning of "old-school" has changed from something negative to positive for younger generations. See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=old school
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In the same dictionary, you find the following reference to the entire concept of 'old-school discipline': http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Old School Di...
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authoritarian attitude

Very common expression in English, 13.200.000 hits in Google. Not as colloquial as the Danish, but generally used and understood.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:40:38 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits for authoritarian attitude - 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link here)

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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:43:12 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits in Google for authoritarian attitude, 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link above)
Example sentence:

Parents who have an authoritarian attitude prefer dependent behavior, obedience, and ...

Spanking is the hub in the wheel of authoritarian attitudes toward child-rearing

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