Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Danish term or phrase:
kæft trit og retning
English translation:
robot-like discipline
Added to glossary by
Diarmuid Kennan
Jun 3, 2012 23:16
11 yrs ago
Danish term
kæft trit og retning
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This seems to be a phrase (maybe sports related?).
Proposed translations
(English)
3 | robot-like discipline | Diarmuid Kennan |
4 | shut up and do what I say | Hanne Rask Sonderborg |
4 | old-school discipline | 564354352 (X) |
4 | authoritarian attitude | Marianne Sorensen |
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Jun 5, 2012 07:52: Diarmuid Kennan Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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robot-like discipline
Plenty of ways of saying this....this is Gyldendal's suggestion
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks"
2 hrs
shut up and do what I say
strict discipline
Note from asker:
Your answer came it after I had to deliver, otherwise I would have used this. Thanks. |
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old-school discipline
Found in www.ordbogen.com - and this makes very good sense, as it refers to the way children used to be treated at school many years ago.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Christine Andersen
: keep silent, keep in step and follow the one in front... that is actually how I remember we did a skit on school rules!
2 hrs
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disagree |
Marianne Sorensen
: I think the meaning of "old-school" has changed from something negative to positive for younger generations. See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=old school
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In the same dictionary, you find the following reference to the entire concept of 'old-school discipline': http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Old School Di...
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8 hrs
authoritarian attitude
Very common expression in English, 13.200.000 hits in Google. Not as colloquial as the Danish, but generally used and understood.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:40:38 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits for authoritarian attitude - 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link here)
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:43:12 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits in Google for authoritarian attitude, 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link above)
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:40:38 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits for authoritarian attitude - 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link here)
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-06-04 07:43:12 GMT)
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13.200.000 hits in Google for authoritarian attitude, 5.800.000 for authoritarian attitudes (my link above)
Example sentence:
Parents who have an authoritarian attitude prefer dependent behavior, obedience, and ...
Spanking is the hub in the wheel of authoritarian attitudes toward child-rearing
Discussion
In this context, if you look at the Danish source term 'kæft, trit og retning', it has a negative connotation related to the way children were treated at school many years ago, including being beaten if they did not comply with teachers' rules, and maybe the way in which soldiers were (are?) supposed to blindly follow orders. In my book, that is 'old-school discipline', as in 'out of date'. If 'old-school discipline' in your book (or the asker's) is something positive, then it is not the right term to use here.
Looking closer at the deifinition of 'old-school discipline' that I referred to earlier (must admit I didn't read it through), I question the validity of the Urban Dictionary at all.
In my humble opinion, you may be right in thinking that 'old-school' in general may be gaining a positive meaning on a par with 'old-world', but when you combine with 'discipline', the connotation is negative.
That is an army expression, but it was what we called the marching drill!
At my highly traditional boarding school (read old-fashioned, even then, but it has improved a lot since), we were always in groups or teams of one kind or another, whether it was games, singing in the choir or marching from the houses where we slept to the big dining hall.
At town Guide parades our troop always went in front because the others were not so good at marching!
But it was torture to a loner like me... even though I have many good memories too.