Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

avant-produits

English translation:

ingredients

Added to glossary by pooja_chic
Jul 7, 2011 05:54
12 yrs ago
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French term

avant-produits

French to English Bus/Financial Food & Drink Ingredients
"Enfin, le spécialiste des ingrédients pour la filière farine / pain [Eurogerm] prend également le contrôle de Gustalis Solutions Saveur en passant de 40 à 70% de son capital. Cette société oeuvre dans les ***avants-produits*** sucrés de boulangerie, pâtisserie et traiteur."

"Après une prise de participation stratégique de 40% dans le capital de Gustalis en 2008, EUROGERM annonce aujourd'hui avoir franchi le seuil des 70% du capital de ce spécialiste des ***avant-produits*** de
Boulangerie-Pâtisserie-Traiteur: feuilletage, crème pâtissière, pâtes jaunes, génoise."

"Eurogerm annonce parallèlement sa montée au capital des sociétés IDS Solutions Conditionnement et Gustalis Solutions Saveur. La première est spécialisée dans le conditionnement et le mélange à façon et la seconde dans les ***avant-produits*** pour la boulangerie, la pâtisserie et les traiteurs. Des activités complémentaires de celles d'Eurogerm."

I have come up with four possible solutions:
1) finished products - Eurogerm's website
2) pre-finished products - web sources
3) ingredients, simply, or maybe components, to posh it up a bit
4) Trial product/test phase product - answer given on this website: http://www.proz.com/?sp=gloss/term&id=858204

I do not exclude any other ideas.

Thanks in advance.
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Discussion

Tony M Jul 7, 2011:
Er... ..not really sure about that; sounds to me more like products you buy that just need finishing off; you know, like a cake that has to be decorated, or whatever.

I see this more like already-processed (minority) ingredients that will be used to produce the final product; like pie filling, for example, or hazelnut purée...
Conor McAuley (asker) Jul 7, 2011:
Thanks Tony "semi-finished products", then?
Tony M Jul 7, 2011:
I feel sure... ...it isn't your suggestion #4, nor #1; AFAIK, it is indeed a form of intermediate ingredient, i.e. not a basic raw material, but a semi-processed product for use in subsequent production processes.
I think you need to add soemthing to just bald 'ingredients'

You might consider 'preparations', not strictly quite accurate, nor is it the technical term in the industry, but it might get you by.

Proposed translations

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ingredients

Simply
http://www.eurogerm.com/nouveau/FR/entreprise/images/Gustali...
Le spécialiste de la conception, la fabrication
et la vente d’avant-produits de pâtisserie
The specialist in designing, making
and selling pastry ingredients
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : But as has already been pointed out, there is a need to differentiate here between 'basic' ingredients and this kind of 'pre-processed' ones; their own translation is imperfect in this respect.
44 mins
neutral mannix : Can you give us an example of several "avant-produits"; are we sure they are pre-processed. There may be a legal definition of what constitutes an "ingredient" for pastry in France.
12 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I feel "avant-produits" is jargon and used "ingredients". No need to complicate things: this is stuff that goes into the products. Thanks to all. "
3 hrs

pre-finished product

pre-finished product

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Note added at 3 heures (2011-07-07 09:52:48 GMT)
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http://osdir.com/patents/Food-processes/Method-manufacture-p...

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Note added at 4 heures (2011-07-07 09:55:46 GMT)
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or: pre-processed product
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2005/0238763.html
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semi-processed ingredients

investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?...
"Grobak Holding B.V. supplies basic and semi-processed ingredients to the bakery and food industry. The company is based in Venlo, ..."

www.kerkinactie.org/site/uploadedDocs/Website_diaries.pdf
"The Bakery is a line confectionary industry that uses the semi-processed ingredients for finished products with high nutritional value. ..."
Note from asker:
Thanks!
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
11 mins
Thanks Tony
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