Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
entropiebedingte Anlagerung
English translation:
attachment driven by entropy / entropy-driven attachment
Added to glossary by
Steffen Walter
Oct 25, 2006 18:43
17 yrs ago
German term
entropiebedingte Anlagerung
German to English
Science
Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)
Biochemie
Es geht um die Tripelhelixbildung von Kollagen.
Der Satz, der mir Probleme bereitet, lautet: "Eine entscheidende Kraft könnte die Entropie bedingtre Anlagerung von aromatischen und hydrophilen Resten innerhalb der karboxyterminalen Region darstellen."
Habt Ihr eine Idee??
Danke für Eure Unterstützung :-)
Der Satz, der mir Probleme bereitet, lautet: "Eine entscheidende Kraft könnte die Entropie bedingtre Anlagerung von aromatischen und hydrophilen Resten innerhalb der karboxyterminalen Region darstellen."
Habt Ihr eine Idee??
Danke für Eure Unterstützung :-)
Proposed translations
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Change log
Oct 30, 2006 12:18: Steffen Walter changed "Term asked" from "Entropie bedingte Anlagerung" to "entropiebedingte Anlagerung"
Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Entropie bedingte Anlagerung
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attachment of (...) caused by entropy
Da "bedingt" of gleichbedeutend mit "verursacht" verwendet wird, würde ich das Ganze auseinandernehmen.
Also: attachment of aromatic and hydrophilic residues caused by entropy.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-10-26 10:14:17 GMT)
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As Zareh and Anne suggest, I'd replace "caused" by "driven".
Also: attachment of aromatic and hydrophilic residues caused by entropy.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-10-26 10:14:17 GMT)
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As Zareh and Anne suggest, I'd replace "caused" by "driven".
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Erik Freitag
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Danke, efreitag.
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Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
: Now I see.. I think you are right. However, I would not use "caused". The more common expression is "entropy-driven", because thers is the other factor of enthalpy change as well. Entropy driven means the entropy factor is predominant here...
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Thank you, Zareh, I see your point.
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Anne Schulz
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Thank you, Anne.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Danke für Deine Erklärung, ich habe mich für "attachment driven by entropy" entschieden"
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Maureen Millington-Brodie
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German term (edited):
Entropie bedingte Anlagerung
entropy-driven tendency
is what occurred to me
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your support, mbrodie :-) |
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German term (edited):
Entropie bedingte Anlagerung
entropy-conditioned attachment
depending on further context perhaps also: entropy-conditioned absorption
Note from asker:
| Danke für Deine Unterstützung, Swiss Tell :-) |
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Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
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German term (edited):
Entropie bedingte Anlagerung
The ultimate reason for the entropy driven disposition
of the aromatic and hydrophilic groups lies in the presence of carboxylate end-groups.
Aromatic (hydrophobic) and hydrophilic groups do not ** attach **. On the contray they ** avoid each other **. One likes water, the other hates it. They are not compatible...
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-25 20:32:37 GMT)
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The "disposition" here is that of "avoidance", and certainly not
attachment or approach...
Aromatic (hydrophobic) and hydrophilic groups do not ** attach **. On the contray they ** avoid each other **. One likes water, the other hates it. They are not compatible...
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-25 20:32:37 GMT)
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The "disposition" here is that of "avoidance", and certainly not
attachment or approach...
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your detailed explanation - If I could award two "supporters" you'd be the second :-) |
Peer comment(s):
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Cetacea
: True, the two groups are not compatible, but the German text doesn't say they attach to each other...
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Thank you, Cetacea! My understanding is that while the delta H term is positive (unfavorable), the delta S term is also positive and larger with larget contribution when multiplied by temperture. Thus, Gibbs free energy is negative and hence spontaneoous.
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Anne Schulz
: I understand it that aromatic *or* hydrophilic groups get attached *to* the carboxylate group in the carboxyterminal region. Would that make sense?
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Thank you Dr. Schulz for your confirmation and epecially for your clarification of the meaning. I will try to liik at "triple-helix/collagen to see what exactly is going on... but molstlikely your interpretation is correct.
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Irini Vgenopoulou Maccabruni
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German term (edited):
Entropie bedingte Anlagerung
entropy-driven addition
In the sense of concentration of such groups in the carboxyterminal region.
Note from asker:
| Danke für Deine Unterstützung, Irini :-) |
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