Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Düsseldorf
English translation:
Düsseldorf
German term
Düsseldorf
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Stephen Sadie
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Marcus Geibel
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Languageman
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Natalie Aron
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Aug 25, 2006 18:28: Michele Fauble changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Sep 13, 2006 14:52: Ian M-H (X) changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Jun 26, 2007 11:22: Orla Shanaghy Created KOG entry
PRO (3): Stephen Sadie, Lancashireman, Ian M-H (X)
Non-PRO (1): Edith Kelly
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Proposed translations
Germany
Practical business experience, reliable
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English to German
Düsseldorf
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Note added at 7 mins (2006-08-25 10:00:05 GMT)
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PONS says so and it is well backed on the Web
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Claire Cox
: Looks most odd without...
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thanks claire
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Ken Cox
: In this age of electronic text, there's no excuse for pretending that diacritical marks don't exist in English (which anyhow came from reluctance to spend money on extra patterns in the era of lead type).
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thanks kenneth
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Klaus Herrmann
: That's how Düsseldorf presents itself in NY :) http://www.nycvisit.de/index.cfm?ID=152904
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thanks klaus
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Melanie Nassar
: I have a client that prefers it like this, and it doesn't change the pronunciation for English speakers, unlike ß which I avoid in all translations.
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thanks melanie
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Sarah Downing
: I generally do, but I know that guides such as Associated Press, tend to prefer Duesseldorf. Personally, Dusseldorf seems wrong to me, even if it purports to be acceptable usage
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Indeed substitutuin of the umlaut has always been an adequate workaround for those not able to use up-to-date technology
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IanW (X)
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thanks Ian...even if you are on the other side of the Rhine / Rhein
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milinad
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thanks milinad
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Julia Lipeles
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danke julia
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Ingeborg Gowans (X)
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thanks ingeborg
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Rebecca Garber
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thanks rebecca
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Kathrin.B
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danke kathrin
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Lancashireman
: Also voting to reverse status switch. The fact that PRO translators choose to debate this is reason enough for it to be considered a PRO question.
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exactly why I voted it PRO, thanks andrew
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Düsseldorf
You can also write "Duesseldorf".
Düsseldorf
http://www.duesseldorf.de/en/index.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusseldorf
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Francis Lee (X)
: the only German town I can think of where both versions are commonly used (try Googling either with "BBC" ...)
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Ian M-H (X)
: with Frank: one sees both, so it's a question of style/preference
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Dusseldorf
Regards
And mind: "If in doubt, leave it out" :-)
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erika rubinstein
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Klaus Herrmann
: A heartfelt disagree from Düsseldorf. It's a town on the Düssel, not a town for the Dussel (=moron); umlauts are accessible to anyone who cares to use them.
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Stephen Sadie
: see kenneth's comment, we are living in the 21st century and with pcs
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Ingo Dierkschnieder
: Actually, both spellings are accepted, and I've seen both being used here in the UK. The fact that English word processors might not support Umlauts is a good point.
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earthreptile
: I work for a financial information company with stock exchange listings and we hold Dusseldorf, i.e. without the umlaut, as we do not support extended character sets in our systems.
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Edith Kelly
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Lancashireman
: Also voting to reverse status switch. The fact that PRO translators choose to debate this is reason enough for it to be considered a PRO question.
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