Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

(Kelch‐)Glasproduktion

English translation:

goblet glass production

Added to glossary by Michelangela
Jul 13, 2018 18:32
5 yrs ago
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German term

(Kelch‐)Glasproduktion

German to English Tech/Engineering Materials (Plastics, Ceramics, etc.) Glasmaschinenbau
Durch eine Vielzahl von Patenten [...], sind wir in der Lage komplette Fertigungsanlagen für die (Kelch‐)Glasproduktion anzubieten.

The English version of their website reads "Having developed a great number of patents [...], we now provide complete manufacturing plants for (flute) glass production."

Shouldn't rather be "(goblet) glass production"?

Discussion

Johannes Gleim Jul 14, 2018:
Stemware Stemware is drinkware that stands on stems above a base. It is usually made from glass, but may be made from ceramics or metals. The stem allows the drinker to hold the glass without affecting the temperature of the drink.[1]
Stemware includes:
• Champagne flutes
• Chalices and goblets
• Cocktail glasses (including martini glasses and margarita glasses)
• Liqueur glasses
• Rummers
• Snifters
• Wine glasses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stemware
Herbmione Granger Jul 14, 2018:
Also agree: stemware and other glass beverageware.
Highlight the delicate stem. Flute is a specific type of stemware (champagne/toasting glass) and not likely what is meant. Based on the website, the Glas in Glasproduktion refers to Trinkglas (Bierglas, Wasserglas, etc).

https://unternehmen.zwiesel-kristallglas.com/en/cms/
https://schnaeppchenfuchs.com/alltag/schott-zwiesel-kelchgla...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_glassware
Wendy Streitparth Jul 14, 2018:
With Andrew.
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Kelch#Bedeutung1a
kostbares, glockenförmiges [Trink]gefäß mit schlankem Stiel und breiterem, kreisrundem Fuß
Michelangela (asker) Jul 14, 2018:
@Lancashireman Stemware = Stielgläser
philgoddard Jul 13, 2018:
It's not clear from the website, but I'd put money on my assumption being correct.
philgoddard Jul 13, 2018:
Because Kelch is in parentheses, this probably means "wine and other glasses". I can't find the site, but you could probably confirm this. I'd be surprised if they made wineglasses and nothing else.
Michelangela (asker) Jul 13, 2018:
Wine glasses - too specific? @Michael Martin: Isn't "wine glasses" too specific, whereas "goblet glasses" would be more generic?

See e.g. https://www.ndbagad.info/waterford-crystal-marquis-laurent-c...

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goblet glass production

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goblet_Glass_(Banquet).sv...

at least this is what my long-term client calls it and this is more general than wine glass.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lancashireman : Endorsement of the asker's preferred solution rarely goes unrewarded on this site.
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Thanks but I did not even see asker's preferred solution but now that you pointed it out ....
agree Kim Metzger
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wine glass manufacturing

They look like wine glasses to me so that's what I would opt for.

https://www.ndbagad.info/spiegelau-weinglas-jumbokelch-kelch...
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : But see my comments.
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Agree with comments and still curious if we can find a more generic solution..
disagree Edith Kelly : no, a Kelchglas can also be used for other drinks.
11 hrs
You would think, right? Except all the Kelchgläser I've seen look like wine glasses, not like big-bellied goblets.
agree Lancashireman : the manufacturing of glasses for wine
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flute glass, goblet-shaped glass, glass goblet

Der Kelch (von griech.-lat. calix: Becher) ist ein deckel- und henkelloses Gefäß, bestehend aus Cuppa (Schale), Nodus (Knauf), Stilus (Schaft) und Pes (Fuß).
Die Bezeichnung wird im gegenwärtigen Sprachgebrauch überwiegend auf den in der Liturgie gebrauchten Kelch angewendet.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelch_(Gefäß)

verlinkt mit:

A chalice (from Latin calix, mug, borrowed from Greek κύλιξ (kulix), cup) or goblet is a footed cup intended to hold a drink. In religious practice, a chalice is often used for drinking during a ceremony or may carry a certain symbolic meaning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalice
(Auf den Bildern sind reich verzierte metallene Kelche zu sehen), aber keine Kelchgläser oder Glaskelche. Deshalb finde ich "chalice" oder "goblet" für die Übersetzung im Kontext weniger gut als "flute glass" geeignet.)

Champagne glass
(Redirected from Flute glass)
The champagne flute (French: flûte à Champagne) is a stem glass with either a tall tapered conical shape or elongated slender bowl, generally holding about 6 to 10 US fl oz (180 to 300 ml) of liquid.[2]
The champagne flute was developed along with other wine stemware in the early 1700s as the preferred shape for sparkling wine as materials for drinking vessels shifted from metal and ceramic to glassware.[3] Initially, the flute was tall, conical, and slender;[4] by the 20th century, preferences changed from a straight-sided glass to one which curved inward slightly near the lip.
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While most commonly used for sparkling wines, flutes are also used for certain beers, especially fruit beers and Belgian lambics and gueuzes.[8][9] The flute shows off the beer's color, and helps gather the aroma for the nose.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_glass

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Schaumweinflöte
Als Schöpfer dieser Sektgläser, die um 1800 in Frankreich erschienen, gilt Dom Pérignon. Der Kelch einer Schaumweinflöte ist hochgezogen und am Rand leicht ausgestülpt. Der lange Stiel der Schaumweintulpe soll verhindern, dass sich der Schaumwein durch die Berührung mit der Hand des Trinkenden erwärmt.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schaumweinglas#

Dazu noch ein paar Einträge aus meinen technischen und allgemeinen Wörterbüchern:

Kelch m (Trinkglas) goblet; (eccl) chalice, communion cup
Kelchförmig adj cup-shaped, bell-shaped
Kelchglas nt goblet-shaped glass
Glaskelch – kein Eintrag
(Collins, German Dictionary)

kelchförmig adj / goblet-shaped adj, bell-shaped adj
Kelchglas – kein Eintrag, Glaskelch – kein Eintrag
(Kučera, Dictionary of Exact Science and Technology)

Kelch m, Kelchglas n / crystal o. glass goblet
kelchförmig / bell-shaped
(Ernst, Dictionary of Engineering and Technology)


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Note added at 21 hrs (2018-07-14 16:10:40 GMT)
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Fehlt nur noch die Übersetzung für "production". Das kann wahlweise mit "Produktion" (wörtlich) oder besser mit "manufacture/manufacturing übersetzt werden, weil darum das handwerkliche betont wird und nicht die industrielle Massenfertigung. Fertigung ist übrigens auch schöner und eleganter als das deutsche Lehnwort "Produktion" im Quelltext.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2018-07-14 16:12:47 GMT)
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Sorry, Tippfehler.
Das kann wahlweise mit "production" (wörtlich) oder besser mit "manufacture/manufacturing übersetzt werden, ...

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Note added at 1 day 4 hrs (2018-07-14 22:35:26 GMT)
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In the shown sequence. But you have to decide, what you like, what fit best acc. the broader context and the illustrations, if any.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Johannes for your comprehensive and informative answer. I have only one issue, which is optimization. I am asking for the best term, and I receive a list e.g. "flute glass, goblet-shaped glass, glass goblet". Now which one is the best?
Peer comment(s):

agree Lancashireman : Comprehensive and informative. Optimization should present no problem.
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Thank you!
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