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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Strolchenfahrt

English translation:

joyriding

Added to glossary by Ian M-H (X)
Mar 6, 2005 15:15
19 yrs ago
German term

Strolchenfahrt

German to English Other Other possibly a Swiss term
This is from a Swiss business liability insurance policy. One of the exclusions is:

"bei Strolchenfahrten: die Haftpflicht von Personen, die das Fahrzeug zum Gebrauch entwendet haben, und diejenige des Lenkers, der bei Beginn der Fahrt wusste oder bei pflichtgemässer Aufmerksamkeit wissen konnte, dass das Fahrzeug zum Gebrauch entwendet wurde;"

Is this "joyriding"? The term isn't defined precisely enough for me to be sure and I cannot find a single Google hit for it, let alone anything in the glossaries I've tried.

PS: I'm putting this into "other/other" as I suspect people will be able to answer who don't necessarily specialise in law or insurance...
Proposed translations (English)
4 +8 joyriding
4 +1 joyriding
4 taking without owner's consent (TWOC)

Discussion

JeffFish (X) Mar 6, 2005:
no worries - your offense pales in comparison to what we've had the rest of this afternoon...
Rebekah Wils (X) Mar 6, 2005:
No worries, this kind of thing happens to me all the time :-)
Non-ProZ.com Mar 6, 2005:

Rebekah and Shane: Yes, Wahrig has it too and Google has now decided to show me hits for this. I'll up my penance rituals to 24 and beg for forgiveness!
Non-ProZ.com Mar 6, 2005:

Thanks for the fast and helpful input. I shall now perform a dozen shamefaced rituals as penance for looking in 100 places for this but failing to open my good old Duden Universalw�rterbuch. Sorry - in my defence I can only say that it's been a long Sunday...
Shane London Mar 6, 2005:
According to my WAHRIG: Strolchenfahrt (f. 20: schweiz) Schwarzfahrt mit einem gestohlenen Auto. A 'Strolch' is a dated term for a rascal or ruffian.
Rebekah Wils (X) Mar 6, 2005:
Hi Ian - there are a couple of hundred Google hits for Strolchenfahrten, have another look.

Proposed translations

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joyriding

Taking someone else's car for a spin

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Note added at 1 min (2005-03-06 15:16:46 GMT)
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The exclusion is necessary because (as you may/probably know), GAS car insurance policies are tied to the vehicle, not the driver
Peer comment(s):
agree Kim Metzger : Fast Eddy hat eine lange Leitung heute.
3 mins
armer eddy :-(
agree Kathi Stock
3 mins
agree Shane London : Yes. Taking a stolen car for a spin
4 mins
agree Bjørn Anthun
27 mins
agree writeaway
1 hr
agree Lancashireman : JeffZ at 0:00 mins!
1 hr
agree Johanna Timm, PhD
1 hr
agree Christine Lam
3 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks JeffZ, Kim and all. Andrew is not wrong about TWOCing, but (as JeffZ points out) it doesn't seem to be widely used in insurance policies. Apologies once again for posting this question without doing enough research first - but at least it's now in the KudoZ database."
+1
3 mins

joyriding

Joyriding is the term I'd use as an American.
Duden - Strolchenfahrt = Fahrt mit einem entwendeten Fahrzeug
Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway : Fast Eddy need a tuning chip?
1 hr
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3 hrs

taking without owner's consent (TWOC)

OK. I know that this one is nearly 4 hours old and I've already signed up to one of the above BUT the police do not use the term 'joyriding' as it is seen to put too positive a gloss on an antisocial (criminal even!) activity. The term used in UK police records is 'taking with out owner's consent' (and after all UK leads the world in this crime). The 'joyriders' have meanwhile adopted the term for themselves and laughingly boast about 'twocking'.

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Note added at 4 hrs 0 min (2005-03-06 19:15:45 GMT)
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with out > without

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Note added at 4 hrs 21 mins (2005-03-06 19:36:32 GMT)
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Taking Without Consent
This is driving off with someone\'s car or motorbike without permission. It is often known as \'TWOCing\'. TWOC = taking without the owner\'s consent.
http://www.rizer.co.uk/access/default.asp?pg=info&art=crimes...

And one from the USA
Taking Without Owner\'s Consent. – If any person shall wilfully, or mischievously take, drive, or use any motor vehicle without the consent of the owner or person having control thereof, but not with intent to steal the same, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/262/262-12.htm
Peer comment(s):
neutral JeffFish (X) : Your ability to research this stuff never ceases to amaze me! Nonetheless, I don't think this term has made it into the fine print of US/UK insurance policies yet. Not a single google in the insurance context. Doesn't make it wrong, just not widespread
12 hrs
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