Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Deaktualisierung
English translation:
de-actualization, deactualization
Added to glossary by
Anne Schulz
Jul 9, 2018 09:46
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German term
Deaktualisierung
German to English
Science
Psychology
paranoide Schizophrenie
Unter der angebotenen Medikation zeigte sich eine zunehmende Deaktualisierung und ein Rückgang der paranoiden Ideen.
Auch hier brauche ich eine Formulierungshilfe
Auch hier brauche ich eine Formulierungshilfe
Proposed translations
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| 2 | de-actualization |
Anne Schulz
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| 4 | depersonalization |
David Tracey, PhD
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References
| Deaktualisierung |
Gudrun Maydorn (X)
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| De-Aktualisierung=Normalisierung |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Change log
Jul 16, 2018 13:14: Steffen Walter changed "Field (write-in)" from "paranoide schizophrenie" to "paranoide Schizophrenie"
Jul 19, 2018 10:58: Anne Schulz Created KOG entry
Jul 19, 2018 11:18: Harald Moelzer (medical-translator) changed "Field" from "Medical" to "Science"
Proposed translations
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de-actualization
Ich weiß nicht, ob der Begriff "Deaktualisierung" in diesem medizinischen Kontext tatsächlich korrekt gebraucht ist. Vom Wortsinn her ("weniger aktuell werden") würde ich assoziieren, dass die Symptome weniger akut (aus der Sicht der Mitmenschen) und die Wahnideen weniger präsent/bedrängend (aus der Sicht des Patienten) werden.
Im Englischen existiert der Begriff "de-actualization", der anscheinend ähnlich wenig gebräuchlich ist und ähnliche Konnotationen hat – also warum nicht einfach den verwenden?
Im Englischen existiert der Begriff "de-actualization", der anscheinend ähnlich wenig gebräuchlich ist und ähnliche Konnotationen hat – also warum nicht einfach den verwenden?
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depersonalization
'depersonalization' is probably a good option:
"Depersonalization disorder (DPD), also known as depersonalization/derealization disorder, is a mental disorder in which the person has persistent or recurrent feelings of depersonalization or derealization."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder
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The fact that the Wikipedia entry lists both terms in proximity implies that they are related, i.e. that 'Deaktualisierung' is not used in the sense of a general improvement. I would suggest using both together "depersonalization/derealization" as in the Wiki entry.
"Depersonalization disorder (DPD), also known as depersonalization/derealization disorder, is a mental disorder in which the person has persistent or recurrent feelings of depersonalization or derealization."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder
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The fact that the Wikipedia entry lists both terms in proximity implies that they are related, i.e. that 'Deaktualisierung' is not used in the sense of a general improvement. I would suggest using both together "depersonalization/derealization" as in the Wiki entry.
Note from asker:
| Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob es sich tatsächlich um eine zunehmende 'Depersonalisierung' mit gleichzeitigem Rückgang paranoider Ideen handelt. Oder ob eine Deaktualisierung der aktuell auftrettenden Symptome in tatsächlichen Wortsinn gemeint sist, also eine generelle Verbesserung. |
Peer comment(s):
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Björn Vrooman
: I agree with Anne and Johanna that Deaktualisierung means the symptoms have subsided. Derealization would be the opposite: https://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/derealization
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Reference comments
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Reference:
Deaktualisierung
Deaktualisierung wird auch Desaktualisierung, Entaktualisierung oder Abklingen genannt.
Deactualization and orthostrophy. Phenomenological psychopathology of receding delusions
In this article we develop a phenomenological psychopathology of receding delusions in persons with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Drawing on Klaus Conrad's (1905-1961) descriptions of beginning schizophrenia and an in-depth single case study, we develop descriptions of the process of receding delusions as opposed to ongoing delusions in the manner of a double-orientation to reality. We distinguish two stages in this process of social recovery and term these stages deactualization and orthostrophy. We argue that delusional convictions lose importance and persuasive power if they are no longer supported by corresponding value apprehensions or perceptions and perception-like experiences (i.e. hallucinations). Consequently, we propose that the process of receding delusions proceeds in layers comparable to a regression of the process of upcoming delusions. Lastly we discuss both stages of receding delusions (deactualization and orthostrophy) and ongoing delusions (double-orientation to reality) as possible continuous manners of social recovery concerning delusional psychosis (diagnosis of schizophrenia) and argue for specific interventions according to these different continuous manners.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25740384
Entaktualisierung und Orthostrophe
Zur phänomenologischen Psychopathologie des abklingenden Wahns
https://www.springermedizin.de/entaktualisierung-und-orthost...
Deactualization and orthostrophy. Phenomenological psychopathology of receding delusions
In this article we develop a phenomenological psychopathology of receding delusions in persons with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Drawing on Klaus Conrad's (1905-1961) descriptions of beginning schizophrenia and an in-depth single case study, we develop descriptions of the process of receding delusions as opposed to ongoing delusions in the manner of a double-orientation to reality. We distinguish two stages in this process of social recovery and term these stages deactualization and orthostrophy. We argue that delusional convictions lose importance and persuasive power if they are no longer supported by corresponding value apprehensions or perceptions and perception-like experiences (i.e. hallucinations). Consequently, we propose that the process of receding delusions proceeds in layers comparable to a regression of the process of upcoming delusions. Lastly we discuss both stages of receding delusions (deactualization and orthostrophy) and ongoing delusions (double-orientation to reality) as possible continuous manners of social recovery concerning delusional psychosis (diagnosis of schizophrenia) and argue for specific interventions according to these different continuous manners.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25740384
Entaktualisierung und Orthostrophe
Zur phänomenologischen Psychopathologie des abklingenden Wahns
https://www.springermedizin.de/entaktualisierung-und-orthost...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Björn Vrooman
: The EN paper was written by German scientists. They are notorious for overly literal translations. I'd think "become less acute" could be an option: https://www.borderlinepersonalitytreatment.com/bpd-symptoms-...
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Yes, "become less acute" is an option. I posted the links mainly to show the alternative German terms, because the German and English are by the same authors.
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Reference:
De-Aktualisierung=Normalisierung
http://tinyurl.com/ydg38vxc
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Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Björn Vrooman
: I did say I agree with you, so I shall.
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