Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

включенность

English translation:

relevance to

Added to glossary by Alan Campbell
Dec 27, 2006 09:40
17 yrs ago
Russian term

включенность

Russian to English Science Archaeology History of archaeology in Russia
I'm struggling to make sense of this phrase.

Подчеркивается включенность подобных работ исторического плана в нынешние споры, их актуальность.

The sentence that precedes it reads:

Одной из черт современной мировой археологии является повышенное внимание к процессам роста археологического знания под воздействием разнообразных факторов как внешнего, так и внутреннего порядка.

Does this seem like a reasonable translation:

Emphasis is now being placed on whether such historical works should be included in current debates and whether they are relevant.

I get the "whether... should" from the idea that включенность means something like "degree to which something is includable - includability - includableness" but I might very well be misunderstanding what включенность means.

Discussion

Alan Campbell (asker) Dec 28, 2006:
Thanks to all I just wanted to thank everyone for taking the time to help me with this phrase.

Proposed translations

+6
2 hrs
Selected

relevance to

or significance for. "актуальность" can be translated as topicality. In fact, your structure with whether ... should" is fine and balanced.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alexander Demyanov
1 hr
Spasibo, Alexander
agree Larissa Boutrimova
3 hrs
Спасибо, Лариса
agree Kirill Semenov
6 hrs
Спасибо, Кирилл
agree Irene N : W/some additions:-)
8 hrs
Спасибо, Irene
agree Anastasia Novoselova : But "актуальность" should better not be translated as "topicality", but as "timeliness".
9 hrs
agree Olga Cartlidge : Relevance. ("Pertinence" could be another possibility.)
12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks. This was a tough nut to crack. I like IreneN's suggestion too and would split the points if I could do so. "
+1
6 mins

involvement

The idea is to show that the mentioned historical works are relevant and timely. Especially when we speak of scientific discussions.
Peer comment(s):

agree Karen Sughyan
1 hr
спасибо
neutral Alexander Demyanov : 1) Don't see how "involvement" would "show relevance and timeliness". 2) "Timely" doesn't seem to have anything to do with "включенность".
3 hrs
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+1
3 mins

validity

actuality futher on is a synonym here

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Note added at 6 мин (2006-12-27 09:47:50 GMT)
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The idea is this works are actual, valid, relevant etc to be used as argument base for current debates

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Note added at 8 мин (2006-12-27 09:49:22 GMT)
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THESE!!
Peer comment(s):

agree Erzsébet Czopyk
1 hr
Thank you!
neutral Alexander Demyanov : In your note at 6 min you mention "relevant". I believe that is the meaning. I don't think either "valid" or "actual" would convey the concept.//On second thought, "actuality" may work well.
3 hrs
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-1
3 hrs

commitment

'Включенность' in itself is a clumsy expression even in sientific kind of the text. I suppose if meaning 'участие' is accented it will
help to convey the same idea.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Alexander Demyanov : In this context - absolutely not "commitment". Scientific work is "committed"? To what?
38 mins
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11 hrs

I would rephrase the whole thing

Special emphasis in placed on the fact that such historic studies are not only relevant to, but form an integral part of the modern discussions.

Relevance is undoubtedly the closest and "most English" here, but not strong enough, IMHO.

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Note added at 11 hrs (2006-12-27 21:39:11 GMT)
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"in" - is
Note from asker:
Thanks Irene. Your suggestion is a very good one.
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