Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
сократить расходы более чем в четыре раза
English translation:
cut the costs by more than 75%
Russian term
сократить расходы более чем в четыре раза
hoary old question | Susan Welsh |
Non-PRO (2): PoveyTrans (X), esperantisto
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Proposed translations
cut the costs by more than 75%
Instead it uses percentages or ratios of less than 1, so that "by 75%" could be replaced by three-quarters, and then 10-10x0.75 = 10-7.5=2.5.
Literal translations just cause confusion!
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Yuri Dubrov
1 min
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agree |
Zamira B.
4 mins
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agree |
esperantisto
14 mins
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agree |
Alexandra Schneeuhr
25 mins
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agree |
Yulia Savelieva
1 hr
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agree |
Andrii Ishchenko
2 hrs
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agree |
Susan Welsh
2 hrs
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agree |
Leigh Mosley
: YES!
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sleyzerzon
: артикль здесь не нужен, так как речь идёт в общем, а не об определённой статье расхода
8 days
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cyhul
34 days
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cut the costs more than 4 times
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David Knowles
: See my answer (and Jack obviously agrees)!
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sleyzerzon
: don't think article is needed, we are talking in general
8 days
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to cut costs by more than three quarters
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sleyzerzon
: one can say that...
8 days
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Thank you. I've no quarrel with David's answer though.
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to reduce the costs by more than fourfold
In Russian, "в четыре раза" = "вчетверо"
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sleyzerzon
: kinda clumsy... oh, and you don't need "by" and "the", so one can say to reduce costs fourfold
7 days
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Thank you for your opinion.
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cut (reduce) costs by more than 400%
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Note added at 8 days (2012-10-25 19:31:15 GMT) Post-grading
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"cut costs fourfold" will do too, the magnitude of it is already implied
Reference comments
hoary old question
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sleyzerzon
: I absolutely agree it's a pro question, especially if one consider him/herself a pro and still asks a non-pro question, one would knowingly denigrade a potential responder. Either do it yourself, or ask, but respect those who answer.
8 days
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Discussion
One can only say that the value has increased by more than 75%, or by more than three quarters, be it in Europe, England, US, Greenland, or wherever...
Now suppose the final value is higher - let's say 351. In this case, the value has gone up by 151, which again is just over 75% of the initial value, so we say the value has gone up by more than 75%.
The European style seems to be to divide the bigger number by the smaller number, so that we have 200/49, which is more than 4, and the Europeans say the value has decreased more than 4 times. Because it's decreased, you are meant to know that they divided initial by final.
In my second example, they say 351/200 is over 1.75, so they might say that the value has increased by more than one and three-quarters. Because it's increased, you are meant to know they divided final by initial.