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Jun 8, 2011 12:10
12 yrs ago
French term

les robes à porter sont parfois de peinture et se visitent au Louvre

French to English Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion contemporay fashion inspired by 18th century clothing
Le couturier, qui fut étudiant en histoire de l'art, s'est inventé une mythologie où **les robes à porter sont parfois de peinture et se visitent au Louvre.**
Proposed translations (English)
1 some dresses are like paintings you can visit at the Louvres
3 dresses to wear are reproductions of paintings hanging in the Louvre
3 reading between the lines a little
4 -1 dresses to wear which sometimes seem to be coming out of canvasses
3 the dresses to be worn are sometimes hand-painted and shown at the Louvre
3 -3 the dresses sometimes seem to be visiting one another at the Louvre as the paint on the canvases.
References
'Lacroix was born in Arles, Bouches-du-R...

Discussion

Laurette Tassin (asker) Jun 13, 2011:
I have not heard from the author yet it'll be thursday... but the editor seems to take my suggestion as ok... I am a little worried about Dieezah getting a minus her suggestion was not so far from mine.
Kirsten Bodart Jun 9, 2011:
That's a good, not too French solution. But I would say 'could have stepped out of' as 'could step out' is a bit weird as that implies they are on the painting and could possibly decide to actually go and have coffee or something ;). I am not sure, though, what 'de peinture' refers to. I have the impression that the writer implies that the dresses are made of paint (i.e. figures on a painting), hence they can also have jumped out of a painting when on the catwalk. Although it could be different. But I suppose the author will be able to clarify.
Laurette Tassin (asker) Jun 9, 2011:
this is what I have sent the author am waiting on his comments

the couturier's very personal mythology colours dress wear that could step out from paintings hung at the Louvre.
Kirsten Bodart Jun 8, 2011:
Looking at pictures and reading about his style, he does make incredible likenesses to 18th century dresses. I mean, not copies, but silhouettes and fabrics (either or).
Laurette Tassin (asker) Jun 8, 2011:
it is about Christian Lacroix, not that that has helped me....

I shall ask the author for more info and keep you all informed, thanks for your suggestions and time.
Kirsten Bodart Jun 8, 2011:
As we have all different opinions on what is actually being said here, could you give us directions maybe about which couturier this thing is?
Laurette Tassin (asker) Jun 8, 2011:
XXX transforme les mannequins modèles en marquises à croquer. [then the sentence supplied above] En connaisseur avisé il ne néglige aucuns details vraisemblables qui font du vestiaire fin de siècle une gravure ancienne délicate.
Lara Barnett Jun 8, 2011:
@ Asker Can you provide a bit more of the text please on either side of this sentence? Thanks.
Laurette Tassin (asker) Jun 8, 2011:
I am beginning to think it does mean that he has been inspired by paintings at the Louvre (probably 18th c paintings)

Proposed translations

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Selected

some dresses are like paintings you can visit at the Louvres

just a guess !
Note from asker:
yes I beleive that's the idea just need to render the writing... I have posted what I sent back to author am waiting on his response.
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5 mins

dresses to wear are reproductions of paintings hanging in the Louvre

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Note added at 10 mins (2011-06-08 12:20:57 GMT)
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or another way of looking at this sentence:

dresses to wear/to be worn are high fashion paintings that should hang in the Louvre
Note from asker:
Quite honestly I think I shall underline and ask the author for more information and keep you all informed
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20 mins

reading between the lines a little

"the kinds of dresses people should be wearing exist only on canvas and can be seen at the Louvre".

Is this statement a form of abnegation, a form of modesty ("Drop your crap and hype, matey, I'm not as skilled as dressmakers of the past, and only wish I were")? In which case I can't see if coming from the mouths of some of the couturiers I can think of ....

Can you put this pearl of wisdom in something of its setting?
Note from asker:
Its an article for a catalogue. The exhibition is a confrontation between 18th c costumes and 20thc French designers inspired by the 18thc. The author has a rather ... literary style
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the dresses sometimes seem to be visiting one another at the Louvre as the paint on the canvases.

IMO it is a personification of those desses, as if they jumped out of an 18th century painting or something.
Peer comment(s):
disagree writeaway : sorry-really have to disagree 100%. this is a complete contresens and also makes no sense at all. the French is very clear, just very (written) French
20 mins
I think you will find this is not a bad interpretation of this very French French. Maybe not in the way I wrote it, though, but still that is what they are getting at.
disagree Heloise Harrap : Makes no sense in English and isn't what the French says either. Sorry.
1 hr
disagree Rob Grayson : Agree with the previous two disagrees
1 hr
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2 hrs

dresses to wear which sometimes seem to be coming out of canvasses

"invented his own mythology filled with dresses to wear which sometimes seem to be coming out of canvasses visible in the Louvre."
Peer comment(s):
disagree Rob Grayson : Nice guess – unfortunately completely nonsensical / My comment is aimed not so much at your French as at your English
6 mins
You are entitled to your opinion but let it be known my answer was not a guess. French is my main mother-tongue and I have my own very good reasons for not doubting my understanding of this particular sentence... Have a nice day !
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14 hrs

the dresses to be worn are sometimes hand-painted and shown at the Louvre

Hello,

robe de peinture = painted dress

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://shefinds.com/imag...


I hope this helps.
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Reference comments

20 hrs
Reference:

'Lacroix was born in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône in southern France. At a young age he began sketching historical costumes and fashions. Lacroix graduated from high school in 1969 and moved to Montpellier, to study Art History at the University of Montpellier. In 1971, he enrolled at the Sorbonne in Paris. While working on a dissertation on dress in French 18th-century painting, Lacroix also pursued a program in museum studies at the École du Louvre. His aspiration during this time was to become a museum curator.'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Lacroix)
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